Freeroll analysis

**Poker92** · 06-23-2011

I played in a freeroll this morning and didn't do so hot. Here are three, what I preceive to be key hands. Remember, I am Phoenix7 in the HH. All thoughts appreciated.

This is the first, well second hand I played. The first hand I got to see a free flop with 9-5 rags and checked till the showdown and won 50 chips, but this is the hand I been waiting for! I go all-in and miss the board BIG!

Hand#263595D526000401 - $1,000 Bankroll Freeroll Satellite T9819430 -- Table 6 -- $0/$15/$30 NL Hold'em -- 2011/06/23 - 10:52:38
Seat 1: Thin***1 ($1,400 in chips)
Seat 2: TheC***2 ($1,310 in chips)
Seat 4: Phoenix7 ($1,475 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: slyc***5 ($2,705 in chips)
Seat 6: 19bu***6 ($630 in chips)
Seat 7: Noma***7 ($3,130 in chips)
Seat 8: Reap***8 ($745 in chips)
Seat 9: MrVe***9 ($1,470 in chips)
slyc***5: posts small blind 15
19bu***6: posts big blind 30
Dealt to Phoenix7 [As,Kh]
Noma***7: folds
Reap***8: raises to 105
MrVe***9: folds
TheP***10: folds
Thin***1: folds
TheC***2: folds
Phoenix7: is all in 1475.0000
slyc***5: folds
19bu***6: folds
Reap***8: is all in 640.0000
Phoenix7: returns uncalled bet 730
Phoenix7: shows [As Kh]
Reap***8: shows [Jc Jh]
*** FLOP *** [7d,Qd,8d]
*** TURN *** [4c]
*** RIVER *** [9d]
***SHOW DOWN***
Reap***8: wins 1,535 with Pair of Jacks

So, now I got 13 BB's left and I'm looking to double-up to stay alive. I go all-in and, guess what? Stuck with only the blinds.

Hand#263595D526000578 - $1,000 Bankroll Freeroll Satellite T9819430 -- Table 6 -- $0/$25/$50 NL Hold'em -- 2011/06/23 - 11:07:57
Seat 1: nbsl***1 ($1,620 in chips)
Seat 2: Jack***2 ($2,610 in chips)
Seat 3: BLKS***3 ($2,460 in chips) DEALER
Seat 4: Phoenix7 ($680 in chips)
Seat 5: slyc***5 ($4,190 in chips)
Seat 6: 19bu***6 ($535 in chips)
Seat 7: Noma***7 ($3,040 in chips)
Seat 8: Reap***8 ($4,230 in chips)
Seat 9: MrVe***9 ($1,560 in chips)
Phoenix7: posts small blind 25
slyc***5: posts big blind 50
Dealt to Phoenix7 [8h,8s]
19bu***6: folds
Noma***7: folds
Reap***8: folds
MrVe***9: calls 50
TheP***10: folds
nbsl***1: folds
Jack***2: folds
BLKS***3: folds
Phoenix7: is all in 655.0000
slyc***5: folds
MrVe***9: folds
Phoenix7: returns uncalled bet 630
***SHOW DOWN***
Phoenix7: mucks
Phoenix7: wins 150

Let's try this again.

Hand#263595D526000588 - $1,000 Bankroll Freeroll Satellite T9819430 -- Table 6 -- $0/$25/$50 NL Hold'em -- 2011/06/23 - 11:08:23
Seat 1: nbsl***1 ($1,620 in chips)
Seat 2: Jack***2 ($2,610 in chips)
Seat 3: BLKS***3 ($2,460 in chips)
Seat 4: Phoenix7 ($780 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: slyc***5 ($4,140 in chips)
Seat 6: 19bu***6 ($535 in chips)
Seat 7: Noma***7 ($3,040 in chips)
Seat 8: Reap***8 ($4,230 in chips)
Seat 9: MrVe***9 ($1,510 in chips)
slyc***5: posts small blind 25
19bu***6: posts big blind 50
Dealt to Phoenix7 [6h,6s]
Noma***7: folds
Reap***8: folds
MrVe***9: folds
TheP***10: folds
nbsl***1: folds
Jack***2: calls 50
BLKS***3: folds
Phoenix7: is all in 780.0000
slyc***5: folds
19bu***6: folds
Jack***2: folds
Phoenix7: returns uncalled bet 730
***SHOW DOWN***
Phoenix7: mucks
Phoenix7: wins 175

I'm dying to double-up. The blinds are up and I gotta get some money! I only got 9 BB's left!

Hand#263595D526000718 - $1,000 Bankroll Freeroll Satellite T9819430 -- Table 6 -- $0/$50/$100 NL Hold'em -- 2011/06/23 - 11:15:23
Jack***2: posts small blind 50
BLKS***3: posts big blind 100
Dealt to Phoenix7 [4h,4d]
Phoenix7: raises to 400
slyc***5: calls 400
19bu***6: folds
Noma***7: is all in 2940.0000
Reap***8: folds
MrVe***9: folds
TheP***10: folds
nbsl***1: folds
Jack***2: folds
BLKS***3: folds
Phoenix7: is all in 505.0000
slyc***5: calls 2,540
Phoenix7: shows [4h 4d]
slyc***5: shows [Jc Qc]
Noma***7: shows [Ad As]
*** FLOP *** [6h,5s,7c]
*** TURN *** [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc]
***SHOW DOWN***
slyc***5: wins 4,070 with Flush, Queen high
***SHOW DOWN***
slyc***5: wins 2,865 with Flush, Queen high
Phoenix7 finished 159 out of 314 players.

What do you think? Did I do the right thing(s)?

**KnightofNarg** · 06-23-2011

Hand 1 - Considering it being a freeroll and Reap's stack size, it is fine.

Hand 2 - Your stacksize and positioning makes this hand a bit ackward. I probably just limp behind here since you're getting decent set odds and freetrolls will always pay up.
Shoving isn't great here as you'll be behind quite often when called and the blinds aren't going to add a lot to your current stack.
Standard raising I think commits you with a weakish hand out of position

Hand 3 - Without reads I'd fold, if you have postflop fold equity standard raising and shoving flop might be okay.
Considering it's a freeroll, you can probably shove, but same as in hand above, expect to be flipping a lot and behind some.

Hand 4 - Stack sizes and reads effect the decision making process, without at least stack sizes I can't give you an informed opinion.

**Poker92** · 06-23-2011

My thinking was:

Hand 1: Shove to double-up. It was a snap move. I knew I was behind when she flipped over JJ, but hoped to hit an A or K. Obviously, I didn't hit. The cards weren't there.

Hand 2: I may have been tilted and not even realized it. I didn't take my position into account. I should have. I saw 88 though and had just calculated 13BBs and thought shove.

Hand 3: Shove to double-up and survive.

Hand 4: Shove to double. I was 95% dead by then. So, i t doesn't really matter.

Is it too corny to believe the cards just weren't there? I mean, that river on hand four was whack.

**KnightofNarg** · 06-23-2011

Push/fold doesn't really come into effect until <10BB's. This also means if the blinds are <10BB's, you can still shove/fold despite your stacksize.

9BB's isn't terrible, I don't really start getting worried until <6BB's. Your focus shouldn't alone be "doubling up" but making the most +ev action you can, and this is what separates big winners from marginal winners.

Note, I'm asking for stacksizes because it effects your opponents decision making process, which needs to be taken into account.

**Poker92** · 06-23-2011

Seat 1: nbsl***1 ($1,570 in chips)
Seat 2: Jack***2 ($2,560 in chips)
Seat 3: BLKS***3 ($2,585 in chips)
Seat 4: Phoenix7 ($905 in chips)
Seat 5: slyc***5 ($3,470 in chips)
Seat 6: 19bu***6 ($3,010 in chips)
Seat 7: Noma***7 ($2,940 in chips)
Seat 8: Reap***8 ($2,525 in chips)
Seat 9: MrVe***9 ($1,410 in chips) DEALER

That is the second to last hand where stack size is displayed. The software I use doesn't display stacksize on the very last hand history.

**Poker92** · 06-23-2011

What do you mean by +ev by the way? Is that like AK versus Q10s wins 60% to 40% ?

**Poker92** · 06-24-2011

Originally Posted by Poker92

What do you mean by +ev by the way? Is that like AK versus Q10s wins 60% to 40% ?

Nevermind, me looked it up

I figured out no one would tell me.

**KnightofNarg** · 06-24-2011

Sorry, was watching some stargate then went to bed

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