So after I emailed FT support and they assured me that their site was totally legit and dealing was totally random (I had expressed some concerns about how the negative variance towards me was totally bunk) I decided to play 50NL 6 max yesterday. First game: UTG I get AA and raise to $2, CO re-raises to $3.75, and BB goes all-in. We both call. AA vs. AK vs. QQ. Guess what comes on the river. Of course a Q.

Next table. 3rd hand in. UTG +1: QQ and I raise $2 CO calls. Flop Q75. I bet $2. CO calls. Turn 4. I bet $8. CO calls. River is 6. I've only got $3 left and push-all to get called by his 88 and his runner runner gutshot straight. BullS**t.

So in 5-7 minutes I had lost 2 major suckouts. Hmmmm FT for sure isn't a scam

Troll? but actually well worded to be honest

LOL...whole site is a business. THeir top priority is making $$$$ not 100% random deal..

Im surprised some one here who has over 300 posts thinks that poker rooms dont have a correct randomised deal algorithm??! I agree that they are a big business and are only worried about their profit margins, and they have lately done something about that which has affected their regular players.. that is they changed their rake structure so no more dealt rake method but a contributed rake method.. This affects the thousands on regular online poker players who play a TAGish/nitish style, therefore reducing their rakeback payments and reducing money leaving the site, while the loose maniacs who probably dont have a rakeback deal will receive more frequent player points but will still continue to lose like normal and redeposit which is exactly what FTP want.

of course full tilt is going to say they are legit. no site is going to email you and say we are screwing you.

please forgive my spelling and dumbness

random dealing,
I sort of look it like this, they say you cannot compare dealing online to dealing in real life simply because with online dealings, the cards are constantly being shuffled, like deal holecards,shuffle,deal flop,shuffle...(read this from an earlier post, months back on here).
And in real life, it goes shuffle,flop,turn,river.

well there is one difference,

Also i kind of look at the 'random side' like this,
say for instance i hold out a pack of cards (lets say for the example that the pack is legit)
and i hold all the cards out (FACE DOWN), and i 'randomly' picked out 1 card at a time,6 times, giving you 6 cards.
Now we both know that those 6 cards i gave you are completely random.
well this is where i believe its not, simply because i chose those 6 cards, not knowing their value, but none the less i chose which 6 you would have..

Outcome- you have 6 cards i chose for you, but the value of each card is different and thus random???

does that make any sense, I dont really have a point except it does kind of come down to randomization at one point...(face value of card)

Also, dont worry about it, i sat down with Q10 in the bb my first hand other day on NL50,
me $50
SB$50,

all folds round to sb who raise to 1.25
I call with Qc 10h
FLOP As Ks Jh
He checks, i bet 1.75
He craised to 6.50
I raise all in and he snap calls showing QhQs (pretty weak by him-however my BB range could be large as is his sb range)

So i floped nutz, and he floped pair Q
TURN, 8s
River, 4s

me flopped Nut straight
Him rivered runner runner Nut flush


I thought wow thats pretty sick, but i got over it and noted him down as married to QQ on AK10 board. 20 hands later i saw him almost bust out, he was on 1 table...