to everyone thinking the sites are rigged

**jedwards242000** · 09-21-2009

im not a great player by any means, i go through downswings but im learning. i always check people i play with afterwords out on pokertableratings.com and 98% of the people i look at are down alot, the few winners i see a look them up and see what they do, they all seem not to complain they dont chase they can fold a big hand even if they are folding a winning hand due to the possibilities, they dont tilt, they are consistent and disciplined, while most of the people who are complaining cant fold a big hand go all in on top pair top kicker to get beat by two pair, every losing session i play i go over my play and see if i played badly or if its just a bad session. then i make notes and adjustments and im getting better. stop blaming the site cause you played badly, theres a reason pros are pros. they are great at the game. they make it look easy when this game is very complex.

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33154976468: Tournament #197608520, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/09/22 15:19:59 ET
Table '197608520 18' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: houka33 (2173 in chips)
Seat 2: dvannetten (3443 in chips)
Seat 3: Aspic1984 (1115 in chips)
Seat 4: Bagonirix (1883 in chips)
Seat 5: kjp100 (2145 in chips)
Seat 6: kiruyha110 (229 in chips)
Seat 7: breakfive (1390 in chips)
Seat 8: Sirius1971 (825 in chips)
Seat 9: mailya (2442 in chips)
houka33: posts small blind 25
dvannetten: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [Qc Qh]
Aspic1984: folds
Bagonirix: raises 100 to 150
kjp100: folds
kiruyha110: folds
breakfive: folds
Sirius1971: raises 675 to 825 and is all-in
mailya: folds
houka33: calls 800
dvannetten: folds
Bagonirix: raises 1058 to 1883 and is all-in
houka33: calls 1058
*** FLOP *** [7h 3d 7s]
*** TURN *** [7h 3d 7s] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7h 3d 7s 3s] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
houka33: shows [Kc 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Threes)
Bagonirix: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
houka33 collected 2116 from side pot
Sirius1971: shows [9h Ah] (two pair, Sevens and Threes)
houka33 collected 2525 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4641 Main pot 2525. Side pot 2116. | Rake 0
Board [7h 3d 7s 3s 2c]
Seat 1: houka33 (small blind) showed [Kc 7c] and won (4641) with a full house, Sevens full of Threes
Seat 2: dvannetten (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Aspic1984 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bagonirix showed [Qc Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 5: kjp100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: kiruyha110 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: breakfive folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sirius1971 showed [9h Ah] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Threes
Seat 9: mailya (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33155097226: Tournament #197610723, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/09/22 15:22:41 ET
Table '197610723 14' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ollé (1485 in chips)
Seat 2: dodibacsi (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: jkj79 (1290 in chips)
Seat 4: Polack89 (1445 in chips)
Seat 5: chen422 (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: OPETTAJA (2960 in chips)
Seat 7: Lenballs1014 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Yippy288 (1940 in chips)
Seat 9: Bagonirix (1455 in chips)
dodibacsi: posts small blind 15
jkj79: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [Ac Ad]
Polack89: folds
chen422: folds
OPETTAJA: raises 60 to 90
Lenballs1014: folds
Yippy288: calls 90
Bagonirix: raises 310 to 400
ollé: folds
dodibacsi: folds
jkj79: raises 890 to 1290 and is all-in
OPETTAJA: folds
Yippy288: calls 1200
Bagonirix: raises 165 to 1455 and is all-in
Yippy288: calls 165
*** FLOP *** [Ks 7h Jc]
*** TURN *** [Ks 7h Jc] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 7h Jc 5s] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Yippy288: shows [JavaScript Qs] (a flush, King high)
Bagonirix: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces)
Yippy288 collected 330 from side pot
jkj79: shows [As Kc] (a pair of Kings)
Yippy288 collected 3975 from main pot
cpartana is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4305 Main pot 3975. Side pot 330. | Rake 0
Board [Ks 7h Jc 5s 4s]
Seat 1: ollé (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: dodibacsi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jkj79 (big blind) showed [As Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: Polack89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chen422 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: OPETTAJA folded before Flop
Seat 7: Lenballs1014 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Yippy288 showed [JavaScript Qs] and won (4305) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: Bagonirix showed [Ac Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33156061951: Tournament #197609662, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2009/09/22 15:44:04 ET
Table '197609662 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: wps-leo (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: DENNIS A 27 (5211 in chips)
Seat 3: Maritima (2055 in chips)
Seat 4: chemita29 (2655 in chips)
Seat 5: TMoney0209 (3050 in chips)
Seat 6: Maj1kal (2610 in chips)
Seat 7: Bagonirix (1703 in chips)
Seat 8: sofia10 (3355 in chips)
Seat 9: nineallday00 (2625 in chips)
wps-leo: posts the ante 25
DENNIS A 27: posts the ante 25
Maritima: posts the ante 25
chemita29: posts the ante 25
TMoney0209: posts the ante 25
Maj1kal: posts the ante 25
Bagonirix: posts the ante 25
sofia10: posts the ante 25
nineallday00: posts the ante 25
Maj1kal: posts small blind 125
Bagonirix: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [Jh Jd]
sofia10: folds
nineallday00: folds
wps-leo: folds
DENNIS A 27: folds
Maritima: folds
chemita29: raises 2380 to 2630 and is all-in
TMoney0209: folds
Maj1kal: folds
Bagonirix: calls 1428 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (952) returned to chemita29
*** FLOP *** [4h 3h 8d]
*** TURN *** [4h 3h 8d] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 3h 8d 6h] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bagonirix: shows [Jh Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
chemita29: shows [2h Ac] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
chemita29 collected 3706 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3706 | Rake 0
Board [4h 3h 8d 6h 5s]
Seat 1: wps-leo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DENNIS A 27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Maritima folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chemita29 showed [2h Ac] and won (3706) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 5: TMoney0209 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Maj1kal (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Bagonirix (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 8: sofia10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: nineallday00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33157835712: Tournament #197616948, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/09/22 16:24:33 ET
Table '197616948 9' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: PortlyPig (3875 in chips)
Seat 2: nineallday00 (4229 in chips)
Seat 3: OdynPL (2075 in chips)
Seat 4: jbrown8777 (2220 in chips)
Seat 5: AndrossX (2313 in chips)
Seat 6: 12michael21 (4330 in chips)
Seat 7: and005 (2146 in chips)
Seat 8: Teuber (10340 in chips)
Seat 9: Bagonirix (2655 in chips)
PortlyPig: posts the ante 50
nineallday00: posts the ante 50
OdynPL: posts the ante 50
jbrown8777: posts the ante 50
AndrossX: posts the ante 50
12michael21: posts the ante 50
and005: posts the ante 50
Teuber: posts the ante 50
Bagonirix: posts the ante 50
OdynPL: posts small blind 200
jbrown8777: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [7d 7c]
AndrossX: folds
12michael21: folds
and005: folds
Teuber: folds
Bagonirix: raises 2205 to 2605 and is all-in
PortlyPig: folds
nineallday00: folds
OdynPL: folds
jbrown8777: calls 1770 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (435) returned to Bagonirix
*** FLOP *** [5h 8s Ac]
*** TURN *** [5h 8s Ac] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [5h 8s Ac Ts] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jbrown8777: shows [6c 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Bagonirix: shows [7d 7c] (a pair of Sevens)
jbrown8777 collected 4990 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4990 | Rake 0
Board [5h 8s Ac Ts 6d]
Seat 1: PortlyPig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: nineallday00 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: OdynPL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: jbrown8777 (big blind) showed [6c 6h] and won (4990) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: AndrossX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 12michael21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: and005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Teuber folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bagonirix showed [7d 7c] and lost with a pair of Sevens

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33159317249: Tournament #197613378, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2009/09/22 17:00:46 ET
Table '197613378 5' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 4: Bagonirix (88114 in chips)
Seat 9: JerryAaron (181886 in chips)
Bagonirix: posts the ante 500
JerryAaron: posts the ante 500
JerryAaron: posts small blind 2500
Bagonirix: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [Tc Ac]
JerryAaron: raises 15000 to 20000
Bagonirix: raises 67614 to 87614 and is all-in
JerryAaron: calls 67614
*** FLOP *** [3c 6h 9d]
*** TURN *** [3c 6h 9d] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 6h 9d 7d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bagonirix: shows [Tc Ac] (high card Ace)
JerryAaron: shows [3h Ah] (a pair of Threes)
JerryAaron collected 176228 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 176228 | Rake 0
Board [3c 6h 9d 7d 2h]
Seat 4: Bagonirix (big blind) showed [Tc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: JerryAaron (button) (small blind) showed [3h Ah] and won (176228) with a pair of Threes

**Av8tor009** · 09-22-2009

shouldve folded that AA preflop.... it can only get u into trouble....

**Bagonirix** · 09-22-2009

PokerStars Game #33161767999: Tournament #197645916, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/09/22 18:02:07 ET
Table '197645916 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: fear2017ps (2570 in chips)
Seat 2: Soul Sailor (2400 in chips)
Seat 3: stupidnub (5450 in chips)
Seat 4: cyrilom (3395 in chips)
Seat 5: Magnetiseur (3985 in chips)
Seat 6: Hunter700627 (3835 in chips)
Seat 7: Bagonirix (2300 in chips)
Seat 8: Janjesper (3535 in chips)
Seat 9: GoNoles (3345 in chips)
fear2017ps: posts the ante 25
Soul Sailor: posts the ante 25
stupidnub: posts the ante 25
cyrilom: posts the ante 25
Magnetiseur: posts the ante 25
Hunter700627: posts the ante 25
Bagonirix: posts the ante 25
Janjesper: posts the ante 25
GoNoles: posts the ante 25
Bagonirix: posts small blind 150
Janjesper: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [Jd JavaScript]
GoNoles: folds
fear2017ps: folds
Soul Sailor: folds
stupidnub: folds
cyrilom: raises 3070 to 3370 and is all-in
Magnetiseur: folds
Hunter700627: folds
Bagonirix: calls 2125 and is all-in
Janjesper: folds
Uncalled bet (1095) returned to cyrilom
*** FLOP *** [7d 8c 9c]
*** TURN *** [7d 8c 9c] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [7d 8c 9c 2c] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bagonirix: shows [Jd JavaScript] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
cyrilom: shows [Th Jh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Bagonirix said, "..."
cyrilom collected 5075 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5075 | Rake 0
Board [7d 8c 9c 2c 2d]
Seat 1: fear2017ps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Soul Sailor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: stupidnub folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cyrilom showed [Th Jh] and won (5075) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 5: Magnetiseur folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hunter700627 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bagonirix (small blind) showed [Jd JavaScript] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 8: Janjesper (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: GoNoles folded before Flop (didn't bet)

**jedwards242000** · 09-22-2009

so you show 6 hands i have 6 bad beats a session lol

**rank25** · 09-22-2009

Originally Posted by jedwards242000

im not a great player by any means, i go through downswings but im learning. i always check people i play with afterwords out on pokertableratings.com and 98% of the people i look at are down alot, the few winners i see a look them up and see what they do, they all seem not to complain they dont chase they can fold a big hand even if they are folding a winning hand due to the possibilities, they dont tilt, they are consistent and disciplined, while most of the people who are complaining cant fold a big hand go all in on top pair top kicker to get beat by two pair, every losing session i play i go over my play and see if i played badly or if its just a bad session. then i make notes and adjustments and im getting better. stop blaming the site cause you played badly, theres a reason pros are pros. they are great at the game. they make it look easy when this game is very complex.

Thanks for straightening that out. I will now start playing poker online..... or not.

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