haven't been here for a while
but wtf's a chip dump
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Thread: Collusion
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11-04-2007 #11
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11-04-2007 #12
its where one person who has a lot of chips folds to another who has a lot less chips when the pot is huge and and the raise is minimal.
example-
Plyr1- 500,000
Plyr2- 500,000
Plyr3- 2,000
Plyr4- 1,000,000
Plyr2- sb-50
Plyr3- bb-100
plyr4- raise to 1900
plyr1- folds
plyr2- folds
plyr3- raises to 2000 all in
plyr4- folds
who in their right mind would fold to 100 chip raise when you have put 1900 in the pot?f*cking it up for everyone else since 1969.
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11-05-2007 #13
ah right....gotcha
what else should I be looking for?
I hear they got this strategy that pushes people out of pots? do they do this with marginal hands only, or either of them don't hit on the flop after they've committed
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11-05-2007 #14Banned
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Another PStars favorite. I was in an 2 table sng with 5 people left. The UTG and BB have been yappin the whole time on the PStars chat box about where they might be going this weekend etc etc etc. The UTG calls 1600 of his 3400, small blind calls, BB chip leader w 13k raises pot to 3200, UTG pushes all in for 3400, SB folds (presumably to let BB go heads up), and BB FOLDS instead of calling $200. UTG say's "Thanks", BB says "No Prob", all of this on the PStars chat box. I think I got 2nd but this really steamed me. I took the history file, sent it support, and they did NOTHING!!! They yammered on how they studied the hands and found no evidence of collusion. I said "Read the fucking chat history". They wrote back and said I should use a more civil tone.... funny
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11-05-2007 #15Fish
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I think it's important to recognize the difference between collusion and just bad play. There's plenty of bad play out there -- some of it truly incomprehensible -- and it can be due to many reasons such as someone suddenly having to leave their PC, someone being schizo and getting ultra-aggressive, someone just not thinking properly, someone being a bad player, etc.etc.
For a web site to conclude that someone was colluding they need more than just some bad play. I'm not saying it wasn't happening in your case but just that it's difficult for a web site to conclude that someone was colluding.
I've reported several people to pokerstars support for violations such as telling people what they have or had in still a live hand and that sort of thing in just 1c/2c tables and I've always received a favorable response from them. It may influence them that I am polite in my pointing out the issue plus I let them know the table number or hand number and time of day.
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11-05-2007 #16Chaser
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Ive lost count of the number of times I have seen the big stack in the BB fold to an all in from a short stack that would have been only half a big blind or less to call.
Most of the time I think it is just idiots who dont understand the principle of calling ATC in certain situations.
I have also been laughed at for calling a half big blind all in with 94s when I had more than triple everybody else's stacks. Even though I didnt bust the short stack it was great because I got a lot of action later with my big hands, everyone wanted to call the "donkey"Fighting online is like racing in the Special Olympics; Even if you win, you're still retarded
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11-09-2007 #17
Great advice. Speaking of catching them, I actually did catch a couple people doing this at a SnG on Party over a year ago. I had suspected them for a while, then finally one of the idiots typed his hand in the chat box instead of his IM... Then he tried to cover it up with some lame-ass excuse, lol.
I'm really uncreative when it comes to signatures
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