Im sure this topic has been covered to death but im new here and would like some peoples input and opionions. Ive been playing for awhile and consider myself to be pretty good and have seen hundreds of thousands of hands and am really starting to wonder about the securiy of these sites. I know bad beats happen but with this frequency? I agree with some ppls opinions about why sites would and wouldnt rig games. I'd love some opions about that but my real concern is all of the advertisements about online cheats and bots. Has anyone ever downloaded or used one, what about the claims that u can download something that will let u see other ppls hole card on certain sites. anybody know anything?

Bot work. But its not cheating (technically some places), but its really not. They play strictly off math odds of winning, and most are pretty bad anyway. They do nothing more then a human could.



Sites do not rig the game, and there is no way to cheat at it.

End of subject.

Please do not start this

obv that guy must work for a poker site and use a bot but mostly i was curious about the other claims that r made by adds to have software to help u cheat. take it easy buddy, just asking

of course bots are cheating. they allow almost no human error. how is that not considered cheating?

plus YOU arent the one playing.....thats cheating hands down, and anyone using bots are vagina lips.

there is absolutely no way of knowing other hole cards.
it is impossible
those programs try to predict the site's algorithem
the site's are too advanced. UB has some kind of under water sonar system that generates the deals.

bots do exist however.
if you are good @ programming, and have good poker knowledge, you can develope a bot that can smash. (prolly earn $XX,XXX/ year)

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once again fk bots,

Yes, obviously bots are fucking gay. I dont care for 2 reasons.

1. I dont play Limit, limit is the only place u can use bots, so i could give a rats ass about who uses them, cause it doesnt effect me.

2. Alot of them ARE IDIOTS. They will call TP with 4 of a suit on the board without that suit. "no human error". Well, yes, they go all on odds. So play ur odds right and u shouldnt have a problem. Or, dont play limit if ur so scared.

Oh yeah, orginal poster, ur a tool.

Because im sick of people crying about how poker rooms are rigged, that must mean i use a bot and work for a poker room.

If u dont like the "bad beats" u get, then dont fucking play.

You wanna know why you get more bad beats online than in real life? Because you oplay twice as many hands in a game because in real life a computer isn't dealing out imaginary cards. You get more hands dealt to you and therefore more bad beats and pocket aces and more of everything.

i dont know how many bots exist
(i play fixed limit except tournaments)
i would mind 3 or 4 bots in a game, but one doesnt matter too much, id guess hes not too much different to a guy playing on 4 tables at the same time, and those people (maybe some are bots who knows) arent that bad if there is only one or max 2, as long as the others dont play too good, cause at least once you know he plays strict mathematicly you know when to fold etc...

I'd guess that if you were playing against mathmatical bots and if you always raise you might be able to win longterm because they would just fold some time

but of course there are probably some really smart bots out there