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Old 09-04-2006, 11:45 PM
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From: gekoscan
Date: 2006-09-05 01:08
To: info@partypoker.com

Every other poker site has limits available to all users below .50/1 in
limit and .25/50 in NL.
I belong to 3 poker forums and many people have stopped playing on your site
because of this.

For appropriate odds a user needs 300 big bets to play at a certain limit.
If I am playing .50/1
it means i need a $300 dollar bankroll. So if I am just a normal player who
wants to buy in for
50 dollars, this means I should be playing at the 0.05/0.10 to make room for
variable swings so I don't go broke.

It frustrates me that I am forced to take my $50 and lose it playing at
0.50/1 limit because statistically without a BR of $300, there is about a
74% chance I will lose it all regardless of what level of a poker player i
am.

Party ON!! Signed (One lost customer).... also I will be posting this email
and your response in the 3 poker forums I belong too.. I look forward to
your reply. If you have no plans on
changing this on the site please remove my account immediately.. keep the
balance as I can't play it anyways <$4.14>.

And yes, I do realize you have a beginners area. But after a period it
won't let you play in this area. My question is how does duration of an
account relate to a users skill level? My mom has played poker for 20 years
and she is horrible at it. There is absolutely no reason I shouldn't be
able to play in this area.

Sincerely,

gekoscan
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Old 09-04-2006, 11:49 PM
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Dear gekoscan,

Thank you for contacting us.

I understand your concern and I will ensure that your suggestion is definitely
forwarded to the Management.

Our existence depends upon our players and we always do our best in meeting
their objectives. We appreciate your feedback. We definitely need playersı
feedback in making our site a better one.

As of now, I may not be able to give you the period needed for introducing the
low stake tables. However, we would like to assure you that decision will be
taken, keeping in mind the best interest of our players.

A player will be able to play on 'Beginners Table' for 45 days from the time he
creates a real money account. I understand that player may not be able to
enhance his gaming skill within 45 days. However, the player will definitely get
the feel of playing real money online poker.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Ajay P
PartyPoker Customer Care

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PartyPoker, WPC Productions Limited, 711 Europort, Gibraltar
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:07 AM
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I have no problem with this. I've been screaming for years about their shitty server and shittier tournament structure. Those are problems #1 and #2. With a shitty server, an abundance of micros available to all just hurts the rest of the site. That said, you could play 4 of their $1 tournies for fun in the meantime. Otherwise, you're SOL regarding Party, I'm afraid.

Not to mention that they're well aware of this and UB and Stars are proud to have to. I'm a consultant with Full Tilt and server issues are the reasons for less tournaments and micro-tables. Stick with UB to play micro games. Great site. Best for micro-games, IMO.

And, I thought Party had .10/.25 Limit games. I could very well be very wrong on this.

To answer the question that you raised, yes and no. Party is serving the best interests of the 90k people playing on there in that respects. I would be pissed if they added micros before HEAVILY upgrading that server. That would help with their shitty tourney structure and then work on that before adding micros.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:51 AM
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I don't think I have seriously played Party for nearly two years (i.e 20k hands a month). If a reload emerges I usually play it off at work short stacking, WT as hell with no poker tracker. I'm no friend of the rake and the tournament structure is pretty yuk...

For mid/low limit players the reloads made it a good site but these have died. The software is "OK" (frankly I'm not that sensitive to software any more)... but.... there are far better sites/deals

I just lost Interpoker (which I loved three months ago) as it was replaced in my affections by B2B. (Alexs favourite network )

Just let the market work.. If it doesn't suit you move on... There's stacks of sites with good low limits and incentives (Doyles network, Trebca) Prima /Microgaming actually isnt bad at 0.05/0.1 level.

There is no point (in fact its bad) committing to one poker site/network. Poker players WANT at least five big networks for competition (across sites). There would be nothing worse than "Party" being the only site on the planet...
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:03 PM
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I have no problem with this. I've been screaming for years about their shitty server and shittier tournament structure. Those are problems #1 and #2. With a shitty server, an abundance of micros available to all just hurts the rest of the site. That said, you could play 4 of their $1 tournies for fun in the meantime. Otherwise, you're SOL regarding Party, I'm afraid.

Not to mention that they're well aware of this and UB and Stars are proud to have to. I'm a consultant with Full Tilt and server issues are the reasons for less tournaments and micro-tables. Stick with UB to play micro games. Great site. Best for micro-games, IMO.

And, I thought Party had .10/.25 Limit games. I could very well be very wrong on this.

To answer the question that you raised, yes and no. Party is serving the best interests of the 90k people playing on there in that respects. I would be pissed if they added micros before HEAVILY upgrading that server. That would help with their shitty tourney structure and then work on that before adding micros.

But, can they really use "we have shitty servers" as a responce. Sure, u may not want smaller limits, because they slow down the game ur playing, but im pretty sure most people deposite $50 when they start and dont work it up past $300 in 45 days. With the INSANE amount of money this site makes daily, they should have the single most top of the line expensive servers known to man. If in 1 month like 15% (or whatever it is) of what they make on monster tables along is 11Million dollars (Monster jackpot), why the hell do they have crappy servers.

I do not think they are serving the best interest of there customers. They could take some of there million+ profit a day ad buy a god damn new server to there site actually runs nicly and they can serve everyones best interest.

I DO understand why u would be pissed if they added micros, but that is only because of they crap they are already pulling
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:02 PM
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wait i'm confused... don't they have 0.02/0.04 tables on party?
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:05 PM
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Yes, in the begginner section, which is not allowed after u have had an account for 45 days. So u better have a decent amount of money when that runs out, or ur going to be redepositing
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:16 PM
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But, can they really use "we have shitty servers" as a responce. Sure, u may not want smaller limits, because they slow down the game ur playing, but im pretty sure most people deposite $50 when they start and dont work it up past $300 in 45 days. With the INSANE amount of money this site makes daily, they should have the single most top of the line expensive servers known to man. If in 1 month like 15% (or whatever it is) of what they make on monster tables along is 11Million dollars (Monster jackpot), why the hell do they have crappy servers.

I do not think they are serving the best interest of there customers. They could take some of there million+ profit a day ad buy a god damn new server to there site actually runs nicly and they can serve everyones best interest.

I DO understand why u would be pissed if they added micros, but that is only because of they crap they are already pulling
I'm just saying that there are much higher priorities on that site in terms of troubleshooting what's already a huge success for them. Their goal is to keep traffic high and the Monster has done that, but the server is overloaded now. The vast majority of their customers would rather have the Monster stuff over micro tables.

Party doesn't need new poker players because of the monstrous amount of people that already play their site. The only thing that pisses off lo/mid/high stakes players is their server, but the traffic is so high at all times that the games are always great games. This is worth dealing with the server.

They have added deep stacked tournies which is good, but Party is primarily a cash game site where sharks feed on fish whereas UB, Prima, and FTP are mid/hi stakes cash sites while Stars and Dise are tourney sites. Stars and UB are very accessible to all who want to play micros and build a bankroll. Even FTP has recently added $10 games. The main attraction to Party is nothing more and nothing less that great places to play once you've already built a roll. Their goal has never been to be a place for new players to do that and they don't mind people taking their business elsewhere because the games will always be juicy enough to lure in other players to make up for the ones that leave.
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Party is going to stay exactly where they are as long as they are not losing customers. This guy and his friends do not pose a significant threat to them, so I doubt they will be adding micros anytime soon.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:51 AM
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While trying to sign in this moring


"Connection status

Real money games are currently not available due to server upgrade

Play money games are currently not available due to server upgrade"

Ther up now tho, maybe there will be an improvement
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