Betting patterns are the biggest tells.

I use no tracking softwares with online tournaments and these pattern are as light as day. People have seen me play on this forum and chatted with me at the same time and I've watched them play while chatting at the same time and the reads would amaze you when the cards were shown, I guess. Not to mention if you read DN's other articles, all he discusses are betting patterns in his tournament hand examples.

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the human element is still there vito, you just can't see it. Yes tells are gone, but real person betting patterns are still there.

There's a pretty good reason for this, you don't want to tell someone he has a tell. So, DN just acts like it's always 100% based on patterns. I'm sure the truth is it's more likely 75/25, patterns vs some individual read.

He often says, he appeared weak. this isn't based from patterns, just from a read. He just isn't going to let player x know why he felt he was weak, so he just says weak instead of so and so always clumsily fiddles their chips when bluffing.

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i'm with steve-o just cause it's online doesn't mean flesh and blood isn't playing the game. i don't feel less human for playing online poker and the people i play with don't seem less human to me. to me bluffing is a small very small part of the game cause it's easier to fold when i don't have the hand then try to take it from the man who does or even bluffing me. with online poker if your hand sucks fold it you'll see so many more in the hour does it really matter. i've never used tracking software cause it distracts me i do use the notes which live play players also use. in my eyes it is all about money i do enjoy playing and i don't whine when i lose. but the ultimate goal is to win the money. anyways i'm human and i play online poker with my other human online poker playing friends. we play poker online.

Yeah. That's right. New girl's a bad ass.

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Lets think about this in another way...

How do would you "know" if you were not playing against "real" people?

What are you getting at?

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Entertain me here for a moment...

The last couple of posters seem to rely heavily on their assumption that they are playing flesh and blood.

Assuming you had the chat function turned off, how would you know you were playing "real" people?

Simple question...or is it?

A.) Why wouldn't I be playing real people?

B.) Bots aren't a fear of mine because they're more predictable- hence, the term, "bots."

C.) I don't know what you're getting at, either. If you're getting to the integrity of online poker sites, we have a ton of bullshit threads on that and it all boils down to the fact that poker sites don't need their own bots on tables because of the poker boom and they have too much to lose and almost nothing to gain. This could've been your point, but you have problems with making points clearly and asking clear questions. I hope this is like the past couple of pages and you spit it out before next year.

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A) Why do people play video poker?

B) If Bots are predictable, and your rationale for why online poker is real poker is because people are predictable (i.e. through betting patterns), what seperates a video game from the real thing online?

C) You're not one for dialogue, are you?

No that is not my point., I am not getting at the "integrity of online sites". Your right, if wanted to read about that, I could use the search function.

I am still on topic. Are you?