plz elaborate.

stakes?

plays?

Now that is the interesting part. Kinda a long story, and it may hijack this thread...still want me to go on?

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

of course,

i asked you too.

Okay:


I didnt have a pokerstars account before today. We were in the chat room for a regular weekly Chat Club meeting and a few of the guys were donking it in the .01/.02 NL rooms on Stars. Wota, Alex, Kid, and then Steve-O were all there. They asked me to sit in and donk it but I told them that I did not have any money. So Kid tells me that if I sign up through PFO He would give me $5 to donk with. So I did, and he did. The following hand then took place.

Me: K7o

Alex: 83 of clubs


Board comes 785 or something. I know there was a 7 and 8.

Alex goes all in.

Alex tells me he has the 8.

I didnt think he had it.

He did.

I lost the first BR I ever had on PS to Alex.



As a sidenote Fake_Boobs aka Steve-O gave me another $5. I lost that too. Probably to Alex, possibly to Kid.

Anyway, almost before the chips were gone Alex is sending me another $5. I think he felt guilty. So now I am down like $10 and I owe Kid, Steve, and Alex like $5 each.

Dont remember how but somehow I ended up getting the last $5 up to $22. Then everything closed down and we all left the table. I then credited each of the donators their $5 back and I am left with a $7 BR on stars.


.10 Tourneys HERE I COME!!


WOOT!

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

maybe u shouldnt have told the story...

thats a weak sauce loss.

But you asked.

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

IT= shit and I always have shit.

manguy,
The penny game was more entertaining last time because everyone was yelling at Steve and I for being donkies and the whole exchange between us and the donks were priceless. Today was a bit more PG. We need to kick it up a notch next time. Those guys weren't very chatty.

But I don't fault you for bringing this up, though I vehemently disagree with the claims. There are flaws in the "rigged" argument when you point the finger at one site like PokerStars.

1.) It is 12:20AM on an early Tuesday morning and there are almost 49k people sitting at tables at this horrid time, so you're gonna hear more horror stories in quantity about Stars and Party as opposed to UB (estimated 6k right now) and Tribeca (estimate about 4-5k right now). This is a faulty sample when comparing sites and I've seen numbers that come out "correctly."

2.) Paul Magriel had a good statement on ESPN after busting out of the '05 USPC when his QQ lost to A9 that people think they're such a huge favorite when it's only 70/30.

To prove the 70/30 theorem would require such a monstrous sample when you're dealing with a deck that only holds 52 cards. The difference between 70 and 30 in frequencies are not so large as to have a small margin of error. I've always used the argument with baseball. Great hitters always seem to get base hits, but they do it at the same frequency as Ax beats pairs between A and x. The same goes for flushes and straights hitting on the turn and river.

3.) People have the odds to draw so they don't fold. Because of this, it looks like they keep winning. Throw in when they have an overcard or two with their draw and you're talking about near coin flips.

4.) Going back to Ax, bad players don't fold Ax, so the luck factor raises online because the traffic is so high that you're gonna encounter more bad players raising your variance. The counter to this is a bankroll and multi-tabling giving you the max. sample to find results.

5.) This comes back to the human factor. Even good players steam which raises the variance every time a bad player makes a bad call and hits which goes back to traffic.

Your post doesn't seem ignorant and retarded and your questions have merit. These are just why I disspell these questions a lot. People think it's because I've been "lucky," but it's not. These are all valid arguments independent of my personal experiences and history of online poker. I don't take online poker very serious at times, but not for the "rigged" reasons. I have other issues which I might write an article on this week. I like it, but I have my issues with it and how sites run their houses.

EDIT: Minor clarifications.

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

MGD. get a program that tracks your stats.
log in 50k hands from PS.

you will see. everything is correct.

and if we are wrong...then why dont you start chasing more draws? since its rigged, you will hit more often. eather way no one has an edge.

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alex makes a good point...

but to me pokerstars just doesnt seem like odds, its more of a gut feeling.

Since I feel this way about PS, theres no point in depositing anymore. Only thing I like about PS is the tournament selection...but sacrifices have to be made sometimes.

w/e.