A little risky but...I'mDaWiLd if you didn't know...

PokerStars Game #2515253250: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/09/06 - 20:50:25 (ET)
Table 'Epeigeus' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: its420yo ($76.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Party Mike ($26.45 in chips)
Seat 3: icefisher123 ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 4: hamlet04 ($48 in chips)
Seat 5: DaWiLdOnE ($30.55 in chips)
Seat 6: likefee1 ($18.50 in chips)
DaWiLdOnE: posts small blind $0.25
likefee1: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaWiLdOnE [Ad Ah]
its420yo: calls $0.50
Party Mike: raises $3.50 to $4
icefisher123: calls $4
hamlet04: folds
DaWiLdOnE: raises $26.55 to $30.55 and is all-in
likefee1: folds
its420yo: folds
Party Mike: calls $22.45 and is all-in
icefisher123: calls $26.55
*** FLOP *** [2c 8d 4s]
*** TURN *** [2c 8d 4s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8d 4s 4d] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaWiLdOnE: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
icefisher123: mucks hand
DaWiLdOnE collected $8.20 from side pot
Party Mike: mucks hand
DaWiLdOnE collected $77.35 from main pot
Party Mike leaves the table
DaWiLdOnE said, "nice"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $88.55 Main pot $77.35. Side pot $8.20. | Rake $3
Board [2c 8d 4s 4d Jc]
Seat 1: its420yo folded before Flop
Seat 2: Party Mike mucked [9s 9c]
Seat 3: icefisher123 mucked [Qc As]
Seat 4: hamlet04 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: DaWiLdOnE (small blind) showed [Ad Ah] and won ($85.55) with two pair, Aces and Fours

Dealer: Party Mike leaves the table
DaWiLdOnE: nice for me

Hmm...one of the biggest pot I've ever won at these levels...I'm not complaining...My only thought was one of them had KK...

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Can we say overbet?

wtf Diggs, afraid to play Post flop??

ANd wtf? only 60 bets at the table???

ANywhoooo.... Nice pot.

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Hmmm.....can I say "cracked" over and over...these guys were weak...after i read the 99 and AQ in my hh...i laughed to myself, then quickly tried to find them when they left...

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Hi diggs,

One guy put you on AK the other put you and the first guy on mid PP in or AK which case the call with AQ was (almost) justified (Actually he got it wrong) . There was $5 in the pot with a $3 rake by the time the all ins fired off.

If you'd been playing mildly loose beforehand their calls were justified. If your only playing premium hands to pot odds then, if they were tracking you they should fold.

The question you might ask is if the pot had been $5 and you had TT would you have put down???

Remember that the majority of time that a lagg goes all-in with a raised preflop pot they have AK in capped rake situations. Everything down to 22 dominates AK.

One of my biggest winners at 0.5/1 & 1/2 is TT which I use to push against loose agressives with drawing hands preflop.

Man this is no No limit.. against the fish you play just above pot odds - against the laggs preflop you have three moves : 1]fold, 2] call = I am just about to go all-in 3] All-in (told you so!)

Bob

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So if a lag goes all-in they usually have AK in a raised pot?
What brings about this conclusion?
Can a LAG not get other hands that they will go all-in with. Wouldn't you have to put the LAG on a wider possibility of hands than anybody else especially a TAG. If they were TAG i could see where they have AK or a high pocket pair, but a true LAG could go all-in with a wide selection of hands.
If u put a LAG on AK most of the time than I would be happy to be playing at your table because i for one could have almost any 2 cards in that position.

"Remember that the majority of time that a lagg goes all-in with a raised preflop pot they have AK in capped rake situations. Everything down to 22 dominates AK"

22 dominates AK? It is only a slight favorite just like any other pocket pair except for KK and AA. Plus the fact that the pot is multiway is a reason that those hands have to play for set value a large majority of times unless u can put everybody on exact ranges of hands. Even if u can u aren't in a dominating position like u would claim. You are either marginally ahead or way behind at that point.

See you at the tables,
jtmorgan

Usually have AK - You can assume that a lagg has this because many laggs will all-in at this level with AQ or AK (and KQ). Simple stats tells you that if you have a player doing this then: The masjority of hands he is all-ining with you dominate with TT. Invariably these guys will also push with mid/low pp (as you can see above) : This compensates for the times they have AA,KK, QQ,JJ. Against a Lag you dominate with TT and above and if the pot justifies it you should also push with AK. Putting down these hands against a lagg will cost you good quality hands= money in the long run. Of course you're not going to win everytime - but you wont win everytime with AA. Nothing is certain in this game EXCEPT

You have a playwer with a VIP of 5% and a preflop raise 1% over 200 hands - you have AK or QQ - he makes a large preflop raise - what do you do?

Answer FOLD!! The guy is only playing AA,KK and maybe AK - The collectrion of hands that he preflop raises with will beat you AND becuase he is playing like this he has devalued his AA and KK holding.

22 dominates AK: - Maniacs play drawing hands hard: It is VERY common for maniacs to push all the way down to AT - particulary if the table is tight. there is little difference between 22 and TT if you put the guy on a drawing hand.

Time and again you see this:

maniac late - tight players drift in with PP connectors AQ/AJ: maniac is last to bet and will push (KQ, JT, small PP, whatever) : All the weak tights fold leaving a pretty good pot Evern thouigh the majority of times he's doing this with a drawing hand. This is made worse becuase the other WT have indicted that he has very few outs left in the pack so a PP actually has a pretty good shot at him.

At the higher limits set value for pp exists but you need good pot odds and implied odds at all stages preflop to make it work. with agressive preflop betting you are often cut out of playing for set value.

Any good player will see you limp/call with mid pocket pair. if hes got you down to one on one on the flop and a flop with any two over cards to your PP lands he simply has to bet the pot to knock you down 6 times out of seven. If hes isolated you with a heavy preflop raise - you will die time and again. Playing for set value works on very passive tables ( and even an agressive table goes through passive agressive stages)- I dont discount the play but if I've limped in with TT and a maniac late pushes for a sizable pot- I will call

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See below - game I just came out of: this is early in the game -

I had data on ppl in late position all maniacs - Limped in hoping to catch a maniac on top pair on the flop... didn't get that far - .. Jayesh (VIP>30 stack user) tried to take down pot with AQ as Kiezer (very weak tight anounced he had AK or highish pair. Kizer had the dominant hand but won' hit the all-in button.

OK I had Aces here but against Jayesh you dont need them.




Game #840170304: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/09/07 - 22:40:06 (UK)
Table "Steelton" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Boxer3 ($166.75 in chips)
Seat 2: kiezer ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 3: MRsiw ($39.75 in chips)
Seat 4: faulk425 ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Mick1984 ($79 in chips)
Seat 6: donkey2 sits out
Seat 7: Jayesh001 ($100 in chips)
Seat 8: Bimarn ($110.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Deme ($25 in chips)
Seat 10: Hotspurs ($108 in chips)
Mick1984: posts small blind $0.50
Jayesh001: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Deme [Ac Ad]
Bimarn: folds
Deme: calls $1
Hotspurs: folds
Boxer3: calls $1
kiezer: raises to $2
MRsiw: folds
faulk425: folds
Mick1984: folds
Jayesh001: raises to $14
Deme: raises to $25 and is all-in
Boxer3: folds
kiezer: folds
Jayesh001: calls $11
----- FLOP ----- [Jh 5s 5h]
----- TURN ----- [Jh 5s 5h][Jc]
----- RIVER ----- [Jh 5s 5h Jc][7h]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Deme: shows [Ac Ad] (Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks, Seven high)
Jayesh001: shows [Qd Ah] (Two Pairs, Jacks and Fives, Ace high)
Deme collected $51 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $53.50 Main pot $51 Rake $2.50
Board [Jh 5s 5h Jc 7h]
Seat 1: Boxer3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kiezer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MRsiw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: faulk425 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mick1984 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jayesh001 (big blind) lost
Seat 8: Bimarn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Deme showed [Ac Ad] and won ($51) with Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks, Seven high
Seat 10: Hotspurs folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Why Only play with 25$?

who cares how "normal" people would play aces "properly" .... its just more fun to go "OMFG ALLIN" and see what happens

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