Stage #175196296: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-08-23 13:16:57 ]
Seat 4 - KKJJKK $28.55 in chips
Seat 5 - RUSSIANKING5 $14.86 in chips
Seat 6 - VVVOVVV $28.55 in chips
Seat 1 - SWXYCHIEFSXX $62.75 in chips
Seat 2 - DAVEY42O $9.65 in chips
Seat 3 - SKINTHEA $7.45 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 4] ***
RUSSIANKING5 - Post small blind $0.10
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Post big blind $0.25
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Pocket [Ks,8s]
- Calls $0.25
DAVEY42O - Calls $0.25
SKINTHEA - Calls $0.25
KKJJKK - Raises $0.25 to $.50
RUSSIANKING5 - Folds
VVVOVVV - Folds
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Calls $.25
DAVEY42O - Folds
SKINTHEA - Calls $.25
*** FLOP [Kc,4c,Qs] ***SWXYCHIEFSXX - Checks
SKINTHEA - Bets $0.25
KKJJKK - Raises $0.25 to $2
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Calls $2
SKINTHEA - Calls $1.75
*** TURN [Kc,4c,Qs,10c] ***
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Checks
SKINTHEA - Checks
KKJJKK - Bets $6.25
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Calls $6.25
SKINTHEA - Folds
*** RIVER [Kc,4c,Qs,10c,Jd] ***SWXYCHIEFSXX - Checks
KKJJKK - All-In $18.30
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Calls $18.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KKJJKK - Show cards [7c,7d]
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Show cards [Ks,8s]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($61.70) Rake ($3)
Board [Kc,4c,Qs,10c,Jd]
SWXYCHIEFSXX - Total ($58.70) HI$58.70)One pair, kings [Ks,8s -P,B,B,B,B:10c]
DAVEY42O - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
SKINTHEA - Folded on the TURN
KKJJKK - HI:One pair, sevens [7c,7d - P,P,B,B,B]
RUSSIANKING5 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
VVVOVVV - Folded on the POCKET CARDS

So much could beat me on the river, any ace or any 9 or the flush, but my instinct told me this guy was bluffing his ass off, has anybody made calls likec this before?

I called a guys all in on the river in a SnG with just K-high.

I was about to fold when I realized he had missed all his draws and was bluffing at it.

One time I was called by a guy with 9 high... I had the nut boat ^^ Ok off topic.

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“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

Hard to tell whether you made a great read or were just crazy. If you had been playing with this guy for a while and picked up something about his betting patterns that you applied and made you conclude that this flop missed him, then I'd say "great read." Anything else, and I'd say you were kind of reckless and bet an awful lot of money to protect the quarter you invested from out-of-position to see if the flop mugged your King-rag. Instinct is great, but I think you win more and lose less when your instincts are corroborated by what you've observed your opponent do before.

I called 18$ on the river with 4 cards to a straight and flush possiblity, I think its save to say I had a great read, if I wasnt 100% sure I had him beat theres no way Im calling that river so much can beat me, basically the only hand I can beat is a total bluff.

My tell on this guy was everytime he was bluffing he would raise within a split second of a Check/Fold.

So then you did have information on this guy that you applied correctly. To me, that's a read, and I agree that you made a good one.

no you're an idiot who got lucky, nothing to see here

How em I idiot, for making a great call, if your going to say something like this you need to explain yourself.


I take pride in using my reads to make calls like this,that do not only take trust in my reads but complete balls to make the call.

I believe your only calling me an Idiot because you dont have the balls to make a call like that, what I did was not stupid just a great read with a great call.

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but just calling me an idiot without any reason or information only makes you the true idiot.

I don't really like the call. First off, i would be very hesitant about flat calling the $2 on the flop after a bet and a raise. Also, you will probably have to call more bets on the turn and river. So right from the start you are commiting too much money with a very marginal hand that could easily be beat. Same with the turn. Building big pots with tpmk is not usually a good idea.

The river, well i guess you had a read, but i would still advise against this call. His betting pattern shows some strength, i don't know what i would do on the river but i defintily think in the long run it is a good idea to get rid of this hand earlier. This is online poker, your not familiar with your oponents. The next two times this happens you could easily be beat and lose a huge pot with a mediocre hand.

Don't want to be an ass, but this kind of looks like a random call that got lucky. What's your "read" again?

This guy was a bluffing machine, my read was everytime he was bluffing he would bet within a split second of the flop/turn/river, he didnt even have enough time to see the card before he was already betting.

I stay in hands when I think I the best of it, size of bets and raises dont scare me, I know when I got and when I dont.