I'd delete this post before the flaming begins if I were you...

Flame on...

How am I to know one of them had the nut flush draw? Hell, that's really the only hand I don't want to gamble with right there. If one of them had top pair top kicker, and the other has an over pair, I am still favored to win the hand. If they both have over pairs, I am still favored to win the hand. Even if one of them has top pair/over pair, and the other has a set, I am still about 40% there.

Fold Preflop, getting it in on flop is fine since we're never folding and flatting is silly.

Yay4u though

leave the emotions at the log-in...just because somebody has you steamed is no excuse for calling a PF raise with 64s. That's a leak...

Once the flop hit, yeah, good play, but your pre-flop play is atrocious. I'd be willing to bet that's a leak.

wow, justify much. If you don't see it as a leak, then it's not a leak. Top players can do it, against guys they've played thousands of hands with means you can do it (look up the definition of suited connectors btw). and there's a huge difference with calling a raise, while chip leader in a huge MTT when you have a large M, but when you have <50bb stack, hey, again, it's your money...

Separates the men from the boys? Mixing up your play? Wow, I hope there's more with your school of thought playing. Oh, wait, there are. They're all the ones that keep reloading because they went busto...why, because they don't understand that emotions should be left at the door:

but the raiser kinda had me a little steamed at that moment.

and they don't understand that getting incredibly lucky does not, nor will it ever, justify horrible play. They also don't understand that if you make a horrific play, and you suck out like a $2 whore, that you probably shouldn't call yourself "one sick pup" without realizing that you will be flamed.

Trying to defend that play, especially as diligently as you've made the attempt, is one sick play. I think I would have been more like "yep, got stupid, got lucky, let's move on."

But hey, the top players can do it. You can to. I'll wait for you to win the ME at WSOP and come back here, revive this thread with an "I told you so."

Seriously? You mad? lol

"got stupid, got lucky" Dude, give me a break! Again, if I called preflop and have to fold the hand, NO BIG DEAL! It's 3 BBs. I'm still in great shape. I did get lucky, but sometimes, isn't that part of the game?

Just becasue I was "a little steamed" doesn't mean I was tilting. I know what I was feeling, and yes, I do tilt from time to time as most poker players do. I was no where near tilting on this hand. As for leaving my emotions at the door. Please! This is poker! It's a very emotional sport. Every poker player in the world feels the emotions of poker while at the tables, but as long as you don't let them get the best of you, then it's all good.

Now, you act like I called a preflop raise of 25% of my stack with 72os, which isn't even close to this. You can call it a horrible call but that is a matter of opinion. -EV call? Yeah, but it's not that bad. I happen to think it was a questionable call, but with the right flop, could have a very high reward, oh and I think it did, right?

You are right about one thing, it is my money. I do very well playing poker and HAVE NEVER reloaded online (started with $25 on AP, and $25 on PS) and have a very good live track record aswell. So I don't need you to preach to me about how I play or plays I make. I loved this hand, and wouldn't change the way I played it one bit.


I could care less about being flamed, it's all in good fun. I know I'm a very successful poker player and will continue to be a very successful poker player, regardless of what you or anybody thinks.

As for the whole separates the men from the boys comment, dude, relax! I'm very cocky, but it wasn't meant to bash you or act like I'm better then anybody here. And of course there is more to my school of thought at the table then mixing up my play. I pride my self on making correct +EV calls, and as I said this call preflop was -EV, but it was no where near as bad as you are making it out to be. Did I make a questionable call preflop? Yeah, and I can admit that, hence why I said I wouldn't make that call at least 90% of the time (which I have now said 3 times).

So go ahead and keep pooping on my parade, and I'll keep playing my game and watching my profits grow and grow. I may not ever win the WSOPME, but I will be sure to bump this thread when I have made over $1,000,000 playing poker, just for you!

Oh and also, the preflop play isn't the part of my play that I think is sick! It was the way I played the hand after the flop. I know I didn't get it in like I thought because one of them had the nut flush draw, but like I said before, I was favored to win that hand against any other hand or range of hands I put them on, except a set, at which I was still about 40%. If they both have over pairs, I am about 58%. Unless one of then has 88, at which im still 50%. If one has top pair top kicker, and the other has an overpair, I'm about 58%. So the fact that I felt I could push there and still be favored against anything but the nut flush draw, which I knew the OR didn't have, as I know how he plays, is sick! Yeah, I got lucky, still, I made a sick play on the flop. Thus making me, "one sick pup".

Serious business in here.

Agreed that is a leak. 17:1 odds is meh but you're out of position and that's no good at all.