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    I've been making a lot of "hero calls" this past week. This is probably the best of them.

    $1-$3 live game at the Horseshoe.

    I start the hand with $210.

    I'm in the SB. Action limps around to the button who raises to $15. I look down at 77 and my 1st instinct is to fold mid pair OOP. I then decide that I'll likely end up getting 4-1 on my pre-flop money, as 3 other limpers are likely to also call behind me. I also assume that this player on the button likely only holds two overs.

    We take a flop, 5 handed. Pot : $75.

    Flop comes Jh, 5s, 6s. Checks all the way around and I'm surprised the button doesn't make a continuation bet. My guess is that his AQ bricked that flop and he knows someone will just check-call him anyways.

    Turn brings the 4s. I look down at the 7s. I have an open ended straight flush and a pair better than 2nd pair. I lead for $25, a very small bet into this pot, looking to either take it down or get some information.

    Every folds over to the button who peels his cards up, and then pushes out $65. My guess is that his AQ just got a little prettier because he has the ace of spades. I make the call to see the river, hoping for that straight flush card that will allow me to stack him.

    Pot : $205.

    River brings 2h. Total brick!! I insta check over to him and I'm really hoping he just checks behind me and we see the winner. Instead of checking he insta all ins as soon as I say check. It's insane how fast the river card came out, I checked, and he goes all in, it's like a split second.

    I now tank it F O R E V E R. His all in has me covered for my last $120ish. I go through all the scenarios and come to the conclusion that he has air. If he made the flush on the turn, why did he go all in so fast? Wouldn't he want to get paid? If he had a J, wouldn't he just check behind me, and why did he check the flop? If he flopped a set, would he really check the flop and then play so recklessly with it on the river?

    I just can't come up with any hand that he could actually have right now besides 88 99 and 1010 that has me beat. I've decided that he thinks he's bluffing, I just hope he's not bluffing with the best hand.

    I make the call and ask him to show me AQ. He says "Nice call" and shows me A10, with the A of spades. S H I P I T!!

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    Nice read. I'd have a hard time making a call like that with 7's. I know he isn't rep-ing anything good, but damn.

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    yet another hand featuring wallace and not featuring 100bbs, complete with terrible logic and neglect for ranges

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    Didn't he say in another thread that $200 was the max buy-in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobg3 View Post
    Didn't he say in another thread that $200 was the max buy-in?
    Yes. I think somewhere else I also mentioned that Piv is a piece of shit with nothing good to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    I've been making a lot of "hero calls" this past week.
    note: hero calls are usually bad calls

    This is probably the best of them.
    not being results oriented at all, i'm sure we won't post the ones where you were wrong.

    $1-$3 live game at the Horseshoe.

    I start the hand with $210.
    a. lol live poker
    b. lol 65bbs

    I'm in the SB. Action limps around to the button who raises to $15. I look down at 77 and my 1st instinct is to fold mid pair OOP.
    mmm instinct, no need for any of that fancy maths or logic stuff

    I then decide that I'll likely end up getting 4-1 on my pre-flop money, as 3 other limpers are likely to also call behind me.
    credit where it's due, spot on wallace

    I also assume that this player on the button likely only holds two overs.
    grab your popcorn boys, btns range couldn't possibly include pairs or anything including something lower than a 7.

    We take a flop, 5 handed. Pot : $75.

    Flop comes Jh, 5s, 6s. Checks all the way around and I'm surprised the button doesn't make a continuation bet.
    that's amazing, he checked the flop 5 handed? what's the chances of that?

    My guess is that his AQ bricked that flop and he knows someone will just check-call him anyways.
    from button's check we can immediately deduce he is holding AQ. AK is out of the question.

    Turn brings the 4s. I look down at the 7s. I have an open ended straight flush and a pair better than 2nd pair.
    read: i have 2 clean outs which i wont get payed on because they're coordianted as fuck, and huge reverse implied odds oop when i hit a shitty flush or straight.

    I lead for $25, a very small bet into this pot, looking to either take it down or get some information.
    let's donk 1/3 pot into 5 players for info. does it get any better?

    Every folds over to the button who peels his cards up, and then pushes out $65. My guess is that his AQ just got a little prettier because he has the ace of spades.
    he now has precisely 4 combos of hands out of his entire button range based on a flop check and turn raise. he wouldn't even raise this hand.

    I make the call to see the river, hoping for that straight flush card that will allow me to stack him.
    [ ] wallace understands pot odds

    Pot : $205.

    River brings 2h. Total brick!! I insta check over to him and I'm really hoping he just checks behind me and we see the winner. Instead of checking he insta all ins as soon as I say check. It's insane how fast the river card came out, I checked, and he goes all in, it's like a split second.
    oh man my heart is racing, what could possibly happen next?

    I now tank it F O R E V E R. His all in has me covered for my last $120ish. I go through all the scenarios and come to the conclusion that he has air. If he made the flush on the turn, why did he go all in so fast? Wouldn't he want to get paid? If he had a J, wouldn't he just check behind me, and why did he check the flop? If he flopped a set, would he really check the flop and then play so recklessly with it on the river?
    here are your answers mr wallace
    a. to get payed
    b. yes, and by betting he would get payed, beucase you'd hero call (lol) with sevens
    c. again, value shoving a jack would be a good idea.
    d. he'd check for the flop for deception becuase it's the live pokers
    e. see d for deception, and yes wallace, shoving a set would be reckless.



    I just can't come up with any hand that he could actually have right now besides 88 99 and 1010 that has me beat. I've decided that he thinks he's bluffing, I just hope he's not bluffing with the best hand.
    i don't know what to say to this

    I make the call and ask him to show me AQ. He says "Nice call" and shows me A10, with the A of spades. S H I P I T!!
    vnh, perfect read, disregard my above comments

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    This thread fucking rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piv View Post
    vnh, perfect read, disregard my above comments
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    I don't even know what to say. I guess I'm a donk and play very poorly.

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    Hey man, if you're still profiting, keep it up. People question Jennifer Harman for her calls all of the time, but she's making money doing it, so she's okay in my book.

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