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Old 11-20-2007, 10:04 AM
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After losing horribly with my AA to a river card I decided to blow off some steam and pass the time waiting for a session with Wota by jumping into one of Redkings Madtiltallin sng's. All out donkfest 60 chips to start with blinds at 10-20.

My turn to suckout on rivers, I think I won about 4 hands on the river from being behind and ended up winning a nice $20 prize, not bad for a $2+20 10 man sng and 5 mins work!



Then after the session I played a few hands of NL10 and this hand came up against a 75vpip donk. I probably shouldnt have called because he hadnt really ever raised PF before this point so it should have been pretty obvious he had pockets.

I ended up calling anyway guessing his shoving range to be and pocket pair or at least 99+. Maybe I was still a little tilty after the AA hand too who knows.


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Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.30
CO: $14.65
Button: $9.80
SB: $3.15
zepth: $11.95

Pre-flop: (5 players) zepth is BB with
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, zepth raises to $0.6, UTG folds, Button raises all-in $9.7, SB folds, zepth calls.

Flop: ($19.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.6)


Turn: ($19.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.6)


River: ($19.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.6)


Results:
Final pot: $19.6
Button shows 10c, 10d
zepth shows Qs, Qd
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:19 AM
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You're right, this is a fold.

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Old 11-20-2007, 01:25 PM
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I'd call that.

EDIT: unless you have like 200+ hands on the guy and he hasn't raised any of them yet.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:33 PM
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JHarding are you joking or serious? 5 handed I think I need a read to fold QQ here rather than a read not to.
If someone is "tricky" enough to limp with AA/KK 3rd into the pot and then shove all in I will give them my $9.70.
I would estimate his hand to be in the 77-TT range more often than not and couldn't rule out even weakish aces.
If hes limped UTG I would give him some degree more credit and agree AA/KK is part of his range, however overbet shoving like this I would then think it is more likely Ax or any pair.
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ive just been talking to JH and he has re-evaluated his initial stance of saying that this was a fold pf.....he now says that it was played sorta ok but he would have raised it to 62c.

apart from that, he reckons it was played fine.
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ive just been talking to JH and he has re-evaluated his initial stance of saying that this was a fold pf.....he now says that it was played sorta ok but he would have raised it to 62c.

apart from that, he reckons it was played fine.
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After losing horribly with my AA to a river card I decided to blow off some steam and pass the time waiting for a session with Wota by jumping into one of Redkings Madtiltallin sng's.
I should mention I love these things so much! Well found zep, we'll have to all get in one of these one day.
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I was contemplating the fold simply because the guy hadnt raised pf for about 45 hands. Not a huge sample by any means but still, someone that passive shoving here should have screamed alarm bells at me.

I still decided that his range was big enough that a call was ok. Against my initial guess of 99+ I have 56% equity so going purely by that it's a call, and if his shoving range is bigger than that then I am even better than that. Also I think Wota is right, someone this passive is probably going to try and slow play his A's not shove with them pf
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Loose donks at this limit who are shoving all-in PF against a normal/decent raise almost always have a low-mid pocket pair because they believe you have AJ-AK. At least that's what I've observed.
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