Prolly not indicative of what I will do every night, but I ran one table of .25/.50 and made out with 135 USD in 3 hours...I have to give Thanks to Alex, and Steve-O for some suggestions they had given me for slightly lower limits that I applied to 1 step up in blinds.

Thanks guys for all your help, the nest thing I need help with is SNG's who's the expert I seem to run into complete idiots when I'm playing that don't seem to care if they lose their money on Kxo all ins PF....

ANyone have a suggestion for SNG's?!?

Let me know...

Thanks guys.

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awesome! it's funny cuz you were the one who posted about being good at tourneys and stuff but having ring game trouble a few days ago and i replied with having the same problem. i've played once since then (got an essay due today keeping me busy), for three hours on two $.25/.5 tables, and i made $130...$80 in one hour, like i said on the other thread, and $50 in the other two hours. gotta second your thanks to everyone who posted advice on that other thread.

as for sngs, i'm no expert, but that's mostly what i was playing before the ring game advice got me started on that. people (obviously) get less stupid as you move up in buy ins, but if you're playing something like the $5 9 player or something else that's low and popular, i think you've just got to remember that a lot of times they are new players and have bad cards so don't assume anything. for preflop all ins where you are actually a much better player than the guy going all in, don't call with only marginal cards because you don't want to end up with a 50% shot to beat a guy who, 9 times out of 10, you'll beat in the long run anyway. consider your long term outcome; doubling up immediately isn't as important as staying alive, being patient, and drawing his money out on a hand where you are more sure of your advantage.

hmmm yeah that's all i can think of right now.

Lol....that's too funny, my winnings in ring came about the same, I pulled in 50 the first hour, and 80 the next 2....so the same here...lol...Which site were you on?

Good luck on the essay...

Mebbe I'll try higher buy in SNG's then, as I notice most definately that most who playem are really there to quick win, and usually void of any skill.

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Diggler,
Congrats on the good night, but don't let one night cloud your vision and give Steve and I credit. Applying strategies and making the decisions based on a way of thinking in certain moments are the hardest part. Keep playing well.

On SnG's, look through the archive and do a search "sng" and look for thread titles and read up. There's a lot of good stuff here already and if anything's lacking or you're still confused about something, post it.

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i was on pokerstars...only place i really play. where were you?

As for the <$20 Sng's, this is a perfect foundation. The person that never puts all if his chips at risk is the one that wins. Now, it's impossible to play 10+ SnG's a week where you never go all in, but remember, I'm talking about a mindset, not pot odds and game theory where I choose numbers that aid my argument and disregard reality. Missy hit a good note here to be careful with your all ins.

I would expand and say that you should watch your bets in relation to the pot. There are people here who disagree with me, but in tournaments (especially SnG's), I think you should be UNDERbetting the pot on the flop/turn/river depending on the board. The blinds rise and your stack becomes not big enough to pot-bet a whole board and then you're making "pot-committed" all in calls and bets when you could normally save some chips or fold to certain cards. Give us a rundown of your mindset and actions in SnG's and we can comment to your needs better.

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Don't move up in SNGs until you can beat the lower end ones. Here's the thing about lower limit SNGs: in a 9 person buyin game, at least 2 are complete idiots. If you have any amount of knowledge of the game, you are at least on par with the rest of the table. If you have a good amount of knowledge of the game, you're skill level probably dictates getting you in the money.

Things you have to try and remember because of this: your skill is your edge, try to steer clear of luck situations in early game, ie don't take small pp vs overcards all in or vice versa, in all likelihood, you can win if you just fold and be patient. In early play (blinds lower than 50/100) you probably want to just sit tight and don't move in without monster cards. This is the period of time where all the idiots either die quickly or get extraordinarily lucky and pull out with a chip lead. Both are in your advantage, they usually have no idea how to handle the game when the blinds go up.

Later game, you want to steal as many pots as possible without getting caught. Even if you do get caught and someone calls you down, you now have a good idea of that person's cards and can bluff him out of ragged flops or even still have a shot at making a legit hand. So in late game, bet often and aggressively, be willing to make big bets on draws or on coinflip situations, you'll be surprised how often they fold.

Down to 4 people: no one likes to bubble so everyone gets all tense. Steal a lot of blinds.

If you get it down to where you can money frequently, it's a good idea to invest a little time/money in practicing HU matches just to get a good feeling for HU in SNG format.

To sum that all up: Tight as virgin for early game, aggressive little bitch (but be smart about it) later game

And O/T but Missy: get off the forum and finish your essay

Thx guys, I'll search, and for Missy I am DaWiLdOnE. Onall sites I play on (Diggler is always taken) lol

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