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Old 05-21-2006, 09:13 PM
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NL200 Max5 at Paradise.

Sorry, I couldn't find where the HH's were.

Preflop...AhKh on the sb

everyone limps I raise to 12.

2 callers.

flop is 3h 4h 5h

I raise to 12. MP raises to 75. I smooth call

turn is blank. I check. He goes all-in.

PASS DA SHUGAH!! (river was a 5...and I almost shitted myself)

Final Pot: 520ish...cant remember
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:01 PM
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Mangy..... I'm pretty damn sure you don't have a $5,000 bankroll (probably need 3k or 3.5k bb's ($6,000-$7,000) to play 5 max safely). WTF are you doing playing 200NL?

Get your ass back down to the lower limits before you go broke again.

Nice Pot btw.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:25 PM
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Mangy..... I'm pretty damn sure you don't have a $5,000 bankroll (probably need 3k or 3.5k to play 5 max safely). WTF are you doing playing 200NL?

Get your ass back down to the lower limits before you go broke again.

Nice Pot btw.

Yeah man. Not too long ago you were claiming you had a gambling problem. You better step back and evaluate. Otherwise nice hand. Very good haul.
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Sorry to hijack the glory thread but on a serious issue here. What level of risk is it acceptable to take if you genuinely feel you have an edge on the game?

E.g A player has a $3,000 bankroll and usually play's $100 NL. This gives him 30 buy ins which is in line with the reccomendation.

If he sees a $500 NL game with 3 known fish and 50% players per flop in a 10 handed game, would he be right to buy in for this game for $250, and allow himself another $250 rebuy? He knows he has an edge and in the worst case scenario he will be left with $2500 or 25 buy ins for his usual game. This is not gambling for gambling's sake, it is a calculted move.

Although I don't think you should habitually play underrolled, should you not be prepared to play slightly above your BR when highly +EV situations arise?
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Old 05-22-2006, 12:36 AM
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Yes, but those situations are rare. Rare enough that a skilled player can take that shot. Very few, myself included, are good enough to make the correct adjustments to the game at hand, and then adapt their way of thinking to the higher stakes and bet sizes. I know it takes me 500-1000 hands to get mentally used to a new limit just because of the large denominations.

Yes, I go out and play 3/6 and 5/10 Live underrolled because I know I can dominate the games around here. I actually do not have a problem with the $ values, since 3/6 is actually the smallest limit I have ever played live, and the handling of the chips is very different then clicking a number.

Part of the skill that is required to take said shot, is a very good understanding of BR management. Meaning, the player must know how the added variance can affect his BR.
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Sorry to hijack the glory thread but on a serious issue here. What level of risk is it acceptable to take if you genuinely feel you have an edge on the game?

E.g A player has a $3,000 bankroll and usually play's $100 NL. This gives him 30 buy ins which is in line with the reccomendation.

If he sees a $500 NL game with 3 known fish and 50% players per flop in a 10 handed game, would he be right to buy in for this game for $250, and allow himself another $250 rebuy? He knows he has an edge and in the worst case scenario he will be left with $2500 or 25 buy ins for his usual game. This is not gambling for gambling's sake, it is a calculted move.

Although I don't think you should habitually play underrolled, should you not be prepared to play slightly above your BR when highly +EV situations arise?

Sure, you can do this. Just dont complain when you get busted. Understand that there are RISKS involved.
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some ppl crave action. i think you can play above your BR if your taking rare shots. like you won a tourny so lets say you have 1.5k, you can play 6max 100nl maybe. maybe. maybe w/ low varience approach. so taking a shot @ 200nl is no big deal. now that you won 500, you can take the shot @ 400nl. ( while risking little interms of your "taking shot BR of 1-200") i think longterm its -EV, but whatever.

very nice hand though. @ first i thaught you were smoothcalling w/ A high, but then i saw you had flush. may the force be with you
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I think taking shots at a higher limit is a good idea. Since the goal is to be playing that limit at some point in the future, its good to ease into it by trying it out a few times. But if your going to, limit your self to a most 2 buy-ins and be prepared to drop back and grind out whatever you lost.
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to sound boring here..

If you're seeking action and you're getting off on this sort of hand - poker is not the game for you.

Bankroll is about absorbing statistical variations without emotion. Good players, playing well can easily go 1000bb down in NL. Particulary if your deepstacking.

IMO you are too involved with this game - you'll doing it for the thrill.

Look at Be's thread on short stacking. Like it or not this is what 'professional' poker is about - squeezing 2bb/100 out of your win rate.
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Well...

I have a BR of around $3000. I usually play $100 or $200NL (buying in for half max buy in), which means I have 30 - 60 buy ins. This is playing correctly rolled, right?

Now say theoretically I am sitting in a $200NL game and have taken my initial buy in from $100 to $300. I won half of this money when I raised Preflop to 8bb with AK, the flop came down AK3 and I ended up all in vs a player with A9. He then left.

I watch a huge fish get a lucky suckout, double up and leave and the 10 handed game now has 27% players per flop and is mainly regular solid players.

I then look at the $500NL table. Hang on, it has 48% players per flop. That fish who got a lucky suckout has taken his money up there, and that guy who I bust is also there, probably chasing his losses. I also see a preflop all in with 88 vs AJ.

I am clearly underolled to play this game, but I would play it. Not because I want a "thrill", but because it's where the dead money is. Yes playing this level for 1 session means due to variance I could lose, and a loss would affect my bankroll more severely than at a normal level (but not that severely - I would obviously limit my losses), but if I didn't want to gamble with the odds in my favour I wouldn't be playing poker.
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