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  1. #1
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    Default Bad Beat or Bad Play?

    I tried to convert it, but it wasn t recognized. What do you think, should I have pushed after the reraise? I did because the guys at the table were super loose, and I prefer to get all my chips in preflop with QQ. Sorry if it is hard to read.

    Everest Poker — Hand Details
    Hand ID: 191135229
    Table ID: -8567900
    Play Mode: Real
    Tournament Table: Putana-7
    Game Type: Hold'em
    Blinds: 1.00/2.00
    Stakes: 2.00/2.00
    Currency: USD
    Starting Date: 2006-02-24 GMT
    Starting Time: 19:31:33 GMT



    Seating Arrangement:

    eldave06 is at seat 1 with 70.50.
    aquaweed is at seat 2 with 54.50.
    minicaposoy2 is at seat 4 with 79.00.
    kjesta is at seat 5 with 223.00.
    Jraidi is at seat 6 with 31.00.
    Pikkabo is at seat 7 with 98.00.
    Tommy is at seat 8 with 115.50.
    lefti77 is at seat 9 with 96.50.
    Bangthis is at seat 10 with 232.00.

    Post Blinds:

    The button is at seat 6.
    Pikkabo posts the small blind of 1.00.
    Tommy posts the big blind of 2.00.

    Deal Pocket Cards:

    eldave06: Qc Qs
    aquaweed: -- --
    minicaposoy2: -- --
    kjesta: -- --
    Jraidi: -- --
    Pikkabo: -- --
    Tommy: -- --
    lefti77: -- --
    Bangthis: -- --

    Pre-flop:
    lefti77 calls 2.00.
    Bangthis calls 2.00.
    eldave06 raises 8.00.
    aquaweed folds.
    minicaposoy2 folds.
    kjesta folds.
    Jraidi folds.
    Pikkabo folds.
    Tommy calls 6.00.
    lefti77 raises 12.00.
    Bangthis calls 12.00.
    eldave06 raises 62.50.
    Tommy folds.
    lefti77 calls 56.50.
    Bangthis folds.


    Flop (9c 10c 9d 6c 3d):

    Showdown:
    eldave06 shows Qc Qs.
    eldave06 has 9c 9d 10c Qc Qs: Two Pair
    lefti77 shows 3s 3h.
    lefti77 has 3s 3h 3d 9c 9d: Full House
    eldave06 is eliminated.


    Pot Summary:
    Total Pot: 164.00
    lefti77 wins 164.00.
    No Rake is taken for this hand.

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    Looks good.

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    with only 35bbs? I guess it is ok, it is player dependant though. maybe he was loose, but was he raising all in loosely?

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    oh hell, you got all in with QQ vs 33 and you are asking if it were a bad beat?

    come on.

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    It looks OK cos you know in the end he had a pair of threes and it was the correct call and just a bad beat ... however.....

    Holding QQ you have 8 cards that can beat you, just over a 1 in 4 chance of being beat. Personally a reraise would show me an Ace and a high card, so there I call.

    On the flop I bet out ... this may win you the pot there and then, at worst you get a reraise to call, i doubt he would have all in, even a check there might have got a check.

    On the turn if it got there you may get away from the hand if you check and he bets.

    I don't think you needed to commit all your chips pre flop.

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    In retrospec I shouldnt have gone all in preflop, but I hate folding QQ to an A on the flop if I know some donk called with A rag

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    The reason I say you may get away from it on the turn is cos the flush hit ... you could never have put him on 33, even if you had you would have bet out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    oh hell, you got all in with QQ vs 33 and you are asking if it were a bad beat?

    come on.
    Christ, didn't see that. Just looked at the preflop play..

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 81.4016 % 81.16% 00.24% { QQ }
    Hand 2: 18.5984 % 18.36% 00.24% { 33 }

    Would'ya look at that...

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    Thats assuming you know he had 33

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    Quote Originally Posted by G_The_Jester
    Thats assuming you know he had 33
    Exactly.

    This is player dependent. On the contrary, I would have to know the player fairly well to move in. Generally, I'll fold to the $12 re-raise preflop.

    I do like that you didn't call. You were in a raise or fold situation. You chose to raise. It was right in hindsight. You just took a bad beat.
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