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    River Rat
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    Default River brings your nut flush, but....

    HEy everyone, I have a scenario that I've been seeing alot lately, and its been killing me everytime..

    The river card brings me my nut flush, but at the same time it pairs the board. I have a hard time putting people on hidden sets anyway, b/c when I bet out, they are just calling me down the whole way which makes me think they are drawing too... But even when the board pairs, I still can't come to grips that I am beat, and I end up re-raising until my double clicking finger starts bleeding.

    I know the easy answer is to just call the river, but any other advice for this?
    part time poker player, full time money maker

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    Yeah its annoying to be in that position. Its slightly worst when you throw a huge bet in having already made your nuts flush on teh trun to see the board paired on the river!

    Do you have some specific hand examples, might make things a little easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keefter

    Do you have some specific hand examples, might make things a little easier.
    Unfortunately no, I was so pissed that I just closed the whole table and software down without even thinking about getting the hand history. But I'll try to re-enact it...

    It was limit. .25/.50

    Me: Ad 6d
    Villian: x x

    Pre-Flop:


    I raise, Villain calls.

    Flop:

    8c 10d 4d

    I bet, villian calls.

    Turn:

    Qs

    I bet, villian calls.

    River:

    8d

    I bet, villian raises, I re-raise, villian re-raises, I re-raise, villian re-raise, I call all in.

    villian shows 10h 10c
    I muck.
    part time poker player, full time money maker

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    Limit. hmmm. no idea about limity sorry. one of these guys I'm sure will comment.

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    If you're on a table that has a 4-bet cap, then I'd cap it here and pay off the FH. If you're at a table that allows unlimited raises heads up, then at SOME point you have to just call, probably after getting raised two or maybe three times.
    I'm CDO. It's like OCD, but everying is in order just like it should be.

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    I check-call the river.
    Chuck Norris put the "laughter" in manslaughter..

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    I know it sucks to see the board pair up n the river, but I just made the nut flush. I would have to raise call. One I have a live hand that only a FH or quads can beat on that board. The likelyhood of someone having either hand is slim. If I raise there and I get reraised, then I would worry about those two hands and just call. I would never be able to not raise on the river, because then I am not getting the maximum value for my hand. Yes when the unthinkable happens and my opponent has one of those hands and I lose it sucks, but it is far more likely that they will not. The only reason I would check there is if I KNEW my opponent would raise and I had him beat, so I wanted to check raise him.
    Nimvin
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    I bet/raise/Call the river.

    Can't fold, and I won't fear the boat until he tells me he's got it....
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    Your gonna win most of the time. Really wouldnt worry about it honestly.
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

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    river player: i bet, if he raises, then i 3-bet, if he 4-bets, thats when i just call.
    you should only go over 4 bets if u have the nuts

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