gder03 is at seat 0 with $42.55.
holdemlucky30 is at seat 1 with $10.
wrecks is at seat 3 with $19.40.
ncpride29 is at seat 4 with $26.15.
raptor03 is at seat 5 with $73.35.
The button is at seat 3.

ncpride29 posts the small blind of $.10.
raptor03 posts the big blind of $.25.
holdemlucky30 posts out of turn for $.25.



gder03: 7h Kh

dont ask why im calling with this UTG

Pre-flop:

gder03 calls. holdemlucky30 checks. wrecks calls. ncpride29 calls. raptor03 checks.

Flop (board: 3h 8c 9h): (flush draw)

ncpride29 checks. raptor03 bets $.45. gder03 calls. holdemlucky30 folds. wrecks calls. ncpride29 calls.

Turn (board: 3h 8c 9h Qd):

ncpride29 checks. raptor03 checks. gder03 bets
$1.50. wrecks calls. ncpride29 folds. raptor03
calls.

River (board: 3h 8c 9h Qd Qh):

raptor03 bets $1.50. gder03 calls. wrecks raises to $13.55. raptor03 folds. gder03 folds, showing 7h Kh. wrecks is returned $12.05 (uncalled).

table went nuts after i do that.

What was the point of this thread?

to:

A. find out if i should re-raise the opening raise on the river instead of calling.
B. find out if i should call the guys strong bet with my K high flush.

once Eclipse stumbles apon my play he will tell me what i should have done.

Originally Posted by gder03

gder03: 7h Kh

dont ask why im calling with this UTG

I can't help myself - 'What the hell were you thinking?" LOL

Seriously, it looks like wrecks was also on the heart draw and with a raise like that he was definately acting like he had the nuts if in fact he didn't! Having said that much, there was only one hand that could beat you (if he had the makings of a full house - i.e two pair or trips- he would have been betting it earlier) so I'm wondering if he really had the nut flush or he just bought the pot?!?!? Is this guy likely to over bet on a bluff?

Originally Posted by gder03

to:

A. find out if i should re-raise the opening raise on the river instead of calling.
B. find out if i should call the guys strong bet with my K high flush.

once Eclipse stumbles apon my play he will tell me what i should have done.

heh lol.. sup gder..
so heres how i would have done the river play:

A. Definately raise the bet on the river, I would have value raised this on the river, so either min raise that initial bet, or raise it to like 1/3 of the potsize.

B. Depending on my read on the guy, i would call this K high flush. If i have no reads on the guy, then I call this guys strong bet on the river with the K high flush. At these limits, I can see players making hard river bets like that with any Q, or any lower flush or the straight with 10J. So I think for the majority of the time you will win and take down that pot. The only hands that beat u here is fullhouse or the A high flush (but him having the ace high flush is kind of rare). If this guy had the full house, I doubt he would have raised so much on the river like that, most likely he would have value-betted it instead to try to get both you and the other guy in the pot to call.

Another reason why I dont think he has a full house on the river is because, If he had a set or a 2pair on the turn (Q3 Q8 Q9, or a set of 3s, 8s or 9s) then this guy would have definately raised your turn bet, cuz in his eyes the board would have already gotten so dangerous by the turn (FD + Straight draws + theres still 4 people in the hand) that he would have raised it up to get rid of all the drawers and take the pot down right there. Hes gotta suspect that with so many people still in the hand, theres gotta be at least a few people drawing, so in this case he would not have wanted to give out any free cards by just calling ur turn bet and risk having the people on draws call as well.

So with that being said, I would have probably eliminated the fact that he could have a full house by the river. Therefore I would assume only 1 hand has me beat on the river and call.



OH YEAH!

after writing all this, I totally forgot that u play 6 handed games, and i forgot to factor that in!.. in this situation 5 handed, I definately call the river 100%. I wrote the above stuff based on if u were in a 10 handed cash game. And since that game is 5 handed, it would be even more rarer that he has a better hand.

oh yea, also, since its a 5 handed game.. i probably would have raised the initial flop bet, that 45cents bet looked really weak, and since I have a FD+overcard, I would have raised it to about the current potsize $1.70 to try and take down the pot right there. If im called down, then I check-fold the turn/river if my hand doesnt improve, or if he doesnt give me the odds to chase for FD + overcard on the turn. Chances are however that since u raised the flop, if the initial bettor decides to call your raise, then most likely he will check to you on the turn. Therefore giving you a free card to make ur FD.

Also the fact that in 6 handed cash games at those limits, people tend to bluff alot, is another reason why I would call.

I reeeeaaaallllly doesnt smell of fullhouse to me. I cant know for sure of course, but I think I would have called that one.

Raise preflop.

Check turn with 4 players still in.

Don't show your fold.