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  1. 02-19-2006 #1
    chambers
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    At the casino the other night i got done pretty badly in a 5-10 no limit game.
    Anyway here's the situation:
    I hold ace jack( in seat 6), there's a few limpers, with about 6 seeing the flop.
    Flop is

    A 10 5

    Seat 5 bets out $25
    i reraise to $50.
    Seat 5 calls.
    Turn falls

    A 10 5 J

    Seat 5 bets out 50,
    i reraise to 100.
    Seat 5 calls.
    River comes A 10 5 J 10
    Seat 5 bets out $100
    I reraise all in for $200 more,
    Seat 5 calls.

    Seat 5 shows full house 10s full of 5s
    Beats my 2 pair As JavaScript


    What would you have done differently?
    Did i just get unlucky? I'm wondering should i have reraised the flop or just called? i assumed he had a low ace or maybe a high 10.
    I was afraid of trips but these guys had been betting out frequently to try and feel out and often steal the pot, this is what i assumed was happening when he bet out 100 on the river.
    What could i have done differently with top 2 pair?
    Any advice?
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  2. 02-19-2006 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by chambers
    At the casino the other night i got done pretty badly in a 5-10 no limit game.
    Anyway here's the situation:
    I hold ace jack( in seat 6), there's a few limpers, with about 6 seeing the flop.
    Flop is

    A 10 5

    Seat 5 bets out $25
    i reraise to $50.
    Seat 5 calls.
    Turn falls

    A 10 5 J

    Seat 5 bets out 50,
    i reraise to 100.
    Seat 5 calls.
    River comes A 10 5 J 10
    Seat 5 bets out $100
    I reraise all in for $200 more,
    Seat 5 calls.

    Seat 5 shows full house 10s full of 5s
    Beats my 2 pair As JavaScript


    What would you have done differently?
    Did i just get unlucky? I'm wondering should i have reraised the flop or just called? i assumed he had a low ace or maybe a high 10.
    I was afraid of trips but these guys had been betting out frequently to try and feel out and often steal the pot, this is what i assumed was happening when he bet out 100 on the river.
    What could i have done differently with top 2 pair?
    Any advice?

    Preflop I would have put in a raise of about 4x depending on how the table is playing, the flop play isnt bad try and feel him out see where he is at but on the turn i would have raised more to about a pot sized bet, and if he calls that im probably just smooth calling the river
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone
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  3. 02-19-2006 #3
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    yeah i would normally raise with AJ but the table was so loose that they would call with ANYTHING, i mean it was a table of rich old guys who are there to have fun- the worst kind of suck out artists around.
    These guys would throw in 400 dollars to the pot with absolutely nothing and show you after they did it.
    I hate being in games like that because it turns from poker into 100 percent gambling and guys will fish no matter how much it costs them.
    But in hindsight in a normal game with more tactical poker players, a 3X raise wouldve sent 10,5 into the muck straight away.

    has anyone else ever had experiences when theyre playing with guys that have just too much money? I mean i've taken guys like this for 1800 profit the 2 weeks before when they fish and don't hit. But last night was one of the worst experiences for me ever. I guess it's about the long term and in the long run i'll win more times than not vs these types of players.
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    If they are betting a lot preflop then im going to play extremly tight and if i get a good hand AA KK QQ even JJ im gonna push it hard, if they arn't making the crazy bets until the flop ill limp with any pocket pair and try and catch the set then play it strong and high suited connectors im limping with
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone
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  5. 02-19-2006 #5
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    Raise 4-5X preflop both to thin the field and because you prbably have the best hand...

    I would have raise bigger on the turn... probably 80% of the pot...

    And I would have just call the river... I cant see why he did'nt reraise that street BTW.
    Only hand he have to fear is TJ...

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    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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    not true... AT as well...

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    Originally Posted by Girevik
    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGJACK
    I cant see why he did'nt reraise that street BTW.


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    lol he couldnt, chambers already went all in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse86
    lol he couldnt, chambers already went all in
    Not an excuse!!!!

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    Originally Posted by Girevik
    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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