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    Default MTT scenario - AQ what to do?

    $50/5 MTT about 45 minutes in...

    Persue has a VPIP of 40% over 40 hands
    SWOOSH about 38% over 25 hands
    Both have preflop raise of 11%

    Nothing they've done suggests they are either particularly good or bad.

    What should I do with my AQo?

    ***** Hand History for Game 3548805934 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20147712 Level:4 Blinds (25/50) - Monday, February 13, 17:48:20 EDT 2006
    Table Multi-Table(597454) Table #16 (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Irexes ( $1700 )
    Seat 2: hatinHEYZEUS ( $1885 )
    Seat 3: JVPalms27 ( $713 )
    Seat 4: viper258 ( $2570 )
    Seat 5: mrsmugface ( $455 )
    Seat 6: PERSUE ( $2048 )
    Seat 8: bamashark99 ( $1347 )
    Seat 9: joe___t ( $915 )
    Seat 7: kzgilson1 ( $1145 )
    Seat 10: SWOOSH67 ( $862 )
    Trny:20147712 Level:4
    Blinds (25/50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Irexes [ ]
    viper258 folds.
    mrsmugface folds.
    PERSUE raises [150].
    kzgilson1 folds.
    bamashark99 folds.
    joe___t folds.
    SWOOSH67 is all-In [862]
    Irexes ???
    Last edited by Irexes; 02-13-2006 at 01:59 PM.

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    I'd muck this. If the original raiser was out of the equation I still think I would muck but it would be a harder decision. Against an EP/MP raise and then an all-in re-raise, granted from a shortstack but not so short that he is anywhere near desperate, I think it's an automatic muck.
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    fold

    Since Swoosh is reraising I put him on pairs 99+ and AQ+. And you have no idea what Pursue has. AQ isn't strong enough to push reraise him allin. You are probably against a pair or AK with some or your outs gone.

    You have 34bbs. If swooshed had open pushed I would call, or if you were in Pursue's spot you could call, but not with both of them in the pot and very little of your own money.

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    Super thanks chaps.

    I folded.

    Here's another question.

    What would be the minimum holding you would need to call or push here?

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    I would only call with AA

    push QQ+ AKs

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    easy fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irexes
    What would be the minimum holding you would need to call or push here?
    KK+, and i raise with kk, i might call with AA, (more so in a ring game) in a tournament i usually raise it. I dont mind if the original raiser calls, but i want it heads up, thats my goal.

    about QQ, because alot of people would play QQ.
    swoosh went all in with a fairly short stack so i might raise with QQ to isolate (assuming he has an OK hand and that the original raiser will fold, creating somewhat of the squeeze play effect, only its not a bluff, so you can get heads up) but if say, original bet was raised to 650 and swoosh had say like 2000 left over, that raise REALLY means business and i would think about letting go of QQ. alot of the time, QQ is a judgment call preflop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tightagressive
    easy fold.
    there are circumstances where I would call or push in a heartbeat.

    keep making those "easy folds" and you may be leaving a lot of chips on the table.

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    i fold this.. either one of those guys could have AK, QQ+.. against a raise and a all-in re-raise i fold the AQ.. the only hand i would push here with is AK, or QQ+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    there are circumstances where I would call or push in a heartbeat.

    keep making those "easy folds" and you may be leaving a lot of chips on the table.
    yeah, with aces or kings i push in a heartbeat

    with AQ its an easy fold. by easy fold i meant the hand was an easy one to lay down, not that you shouldnt play the hand at all no matter what your hand is.

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