PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero calls t20, MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP3 calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB raises to t80, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60, Hero calls t60, MP1 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, CO calls t60.

First hand, after the conversation with Gir ( ) on suited connectors, I figured a limp was a decent move with this hand...by the time the raise came around to me, I was still getting over 5:1 odds, figured those were enough to not chase me out of the pot (Not sure what the PF raiser was thinking with that).

Flop: (t560) , , (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t40, MP3 calls t40, CO folds, SB calls t40, BB calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, Hero calls t40.

Picked up the Flushdraw...but it's only a Jhigh Flush...felt comfortable checking to see what kind of bet I faced...when the bet came around to me, the Pot odds were huge, couldn't pass those up...

Turn: (t800) (6 players)
SB bets t80, BB calls t80, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t80, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

now I have the OESD and a flush draw...should I be betting or raising here to drive people out? by this point, i've put SB on Kx and BB on a flush draw also...

River: (t1040) (3 players)
SB bets t140, BB calls t140, Hero raises to t500, SB folds, BB calls t360.

Landed my flush, but now I'm a little worried, I had put BB on a flush draw also and since he's just calling I'm really thinking my flush is higher (expecting anybody with a higher then J flush to be raising at this point. I had 1300 in my stack when it was my turn to call the bet, I figured (given the size of the pot, a 500 bet would leave me 800 in chips (enough to hopefully come back if I was beat by the higher flush. If he had a lower flush, then I figured I was stacking him. When SB folded, I think I've read him correctly for the Kx. with BBs call, I'm figuring I read him correctly for the lower flush

Final Pot: t2180

Results in white below:
BB has 6h 2h (flush, king high).
Hero has Jh Th (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins t2180.

My main questions on this hand is A) should I have been more agressive on the flop with the flush draw to define my hand better. I had thought about check/raising, but since it was somebody to my left that bet, and he had a lot of callers, I figured I'd have to bet big to push anybody out and I didn't feel comfortable doing that on the Jhigh Draw...

On the river, should I have bet more/not at all. I had thought about pushing hoping to get somebody to think that I was bluffing at the flush...I didn't want to risk my entire stack with the fear that somebody with the nut flush was slowplaying...was that too weak on the river?

I would like to say that I tried to pick an amount that I knew he would call with the lower flush, but in honesty, it was more about how much I felt I could risk and still have a chance to come back if I lost...comments?

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I dunno... I've got ~ 150k hands so far, and I can only remember losing with a low 2-card flush to a higher 2-card flush like 2 or 3 times. I don't worry about it at all... I'm perfectly happy busting out if someone beats me that way. Considering it is probably the better way to go, but I know I'm not good enough to be laying down a J high flush (or not betting it).

Maybe a bet for equity on the flop or turn. You definantly have enough outs on the turn to be betting for value... and the player leading the betting is betting crazy small. Bet to get more value... if they happen to fold that increases your equity also, so it's a win win situation.

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I think with 11:1 pot odds to you on the turn and with a str8 as well as a flush draw I would have raised it up to 400. Calling was giving MP1 & MP2 12:1 and 13:1 respectively. Raising would give the next caller only 3:1 and builds the pot for what looks like a 15 out draw of 2:1... Otherwise, your plays looked reasonable enough.

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Hindsight really makes this hard to critique, but IMO you played it right. The correct call on the flop was to check...I try not to bet flush draws unless they are the nut flush draws on the flop, and the best was small enough to justify going after the draw...especially with the number of callers. We get to teh turn, and now you're oe and flushing, so we know that you have 15 outs...IMO you should have raised here - with 15/46 outs you're going to hit almost 1/3 of the time... and implied odds say if you make the straight (or the flush) you're almost certain to get more money out of them - so a minimum raise here to knock out someone.

IMO, you played the river correctly. You put the SB on a flush draw, and you were right. Of course, you have the 3rd highest flush (only A and Q beat you) but you'd have to decide what they'd play the Q with... which isn't much... AQ is possible, but thats about hte only hand imo you need to worry about..

Really?!? I think I've played less hands than that and I've had it happen to me at least 6-10 times. Just the other day it happened to me twice at the same table, 50 hands apart. And I was at a table once where 4 people FLOPPED a flush!

That being said, usually it happens to me with really low flushes (7-8 high, etc.) J high flush with a K on the board, I'm not going to be too worried about the higher flush.

I'll play a 3 high flush like it's the nuts and be okay with it if I lose. As I said, it's probably better to consider it and alter your play because of the possibility of a higher flush, but I'm not good enough to figure out when my low 2-card flush is beaten, and I'm going to expect it to be good often enough to make playing like an idiot with it profitable. Better players may say otherwise though

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I was actually pleased with myself the other day when I had the 2 low flushes on 1 table. I only lost about $8 with them total on the $0.25 NLHE tables. Both times I had my opponent on the flush draw as well and only called their re-raises on the river.

dont fear over flushes and over sets. this aint the WSOP.

like i said, the ONLY hand you had to worry about was AQ of hearts IMO. it could have been Ax but I doubt it..

Do you mean in tourneys or would that apply to ring games as well?
What if I suspect he is on a flush draw and I'm holding 2/3s? When the flush hits and he starts betting/raising, you still don't think I should be concerned? I can understand in a tourney because by the time you figure it out, you've probably got too much invested already. But in a ring game I might get suspicous.