if you are sure you're beaten, throw away your hand...its that simple. No use putting money into a pot that you know you'll lose.

Happened again.
The worst part? The same guy did THIS to me just 4 hands earlier.

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.25 NL (real money), hand #102,141,471
Table Agadir, 8 Feb 2006 08:36 PM



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Seat 1: ldinis ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 2: caperduey ($27.30 in chips)
Seat 3: MrMcj [8D,9D] ($6.15 in chips)
Seat 6: kewl2 ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 8: xxxSpader79 ($19.85 in chips)
Seat 9: jockinmikeg ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 10: burnedturned ($12.40 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
jockinmikeg posts blind ($0.15), burnedturned folds, ldinis posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
caperduey folds, MrMcj calls $0.25, kewl2 folds, xxxSpader79 calls $0.25, jockinmikeg calls $0.10, ldinis checks.

FLOP [board cards QD,4D,10H ]
jockinmikeg checks, ldinis checks, MrMcj bets $1, xxxSpader79 calls $1, jockinmikeg folds, ldinis folds.

TURN [board cards QD,4D,10H,JD ]
MrMcj checks, xxxSpader79 bets $2, MrMcj bets $4.90 and is all-in, xxxSpader79 calls $2.90.

RIVER [board cards QD,4D,10H,JD,3C ]


SHOWDOWN
MrMcj shows [ 8D,9D ]
xxxSpader79 shows [ AD,KD ]
xxxSpader79 wins $12.30.



SUMMARY
Dealer: xxxSpader79
Pot: $12.80, (including rake: $0.50)
ldinis, loses $0.25
caperduey, loses $0
MrMcj, loses $6.15
kewl2, loses $0
xxxSpader79, bets $6.15, collects $12.30, net $6.15
jockinmikeg, loses $0.25
burnedturned, loses $0

Originally Posted by Beavis68

dont fear over flushes and over sets. this aint the WSOP.

Ha i saw some kid, i think it was the WSOP, but he was beating himself up for making an all in call with the second nuts, K high flush to be beat by the A high. I dont get how you can fold that really.

Originally Posted by PJ of TheGame

Mr. McJ ... that's some crazy bad luck buddy :/

If that's bad luck... I'm surrounded by badluck then.

Regarding the play:

Fine play IMO.

There's room to argue for an aggressive Brunson-esque raise on the turn, but I like the flat call with the pot as large as it is.

Raising the river is the right move. It was a little modest given the pot size, and the weaker flush would probably have called any raise there, but you didn't know that for certain and you really want a call.

Originally Posted by Mr.McJ

Do you mean in tourneys or would that apply to ring games as well?
What if I suspect he is on a flush draw and I'm holding 2/3s? When the flush hits and he starts betting/raising, you still don't think I should be concerned? I can understand in a tourney because by the time you figure it out, you've probably got too much invested already. But in a ring game I might get suspicous.

Big stack ring you have to be more cautious - that is why I dont play it.

Also, if there are 4 of a suit on the board you have to be more careful. I have tossed T high flushes when a fourth hit on the turn.

I only remember a handfull of times in my life when I have lost to flush over flush or set over set in holdem.