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  1. #1
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    Default Critique my play

    .05/.1 limit

    Preflop, I'm MP4 with QdKd.

    3 limp to me, I raise, sb completes, bb completes, 2 more limpers, a reraise from MP3, I call, everyone else calls.

    Flop: 6s, 10s, Kh.

    All check to me, I bet, 3 limpers, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

    Turn: Qh

    sb checks, bb bets, everyone limps to me, I reraise, sb calls, bb 3 bets, 1 limper, a fold, I cap it, everyone else calls.

    Here I somewhat suspected a 3 kind, but holding a Q already, I decided that possibility was fairly unlikely. The pot was very large at this point, this is also a very low limit table, and players are very aggressive with very little.

    River: 4h.

    All three remaining players check to me. I considered betting, but with the number of chasers, I feared a flush attempt at a check raise. I checked to get to the showdown.

    Thoughts?

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    very unlikely that there is a heart flush...it required (and would have hit) two runners to make it. With the betting capped twice, i just don't see how that could happen. I think you're likely to hold the best hand, and if i'm right than the results would show:

    Hero shows 2 pair KKQQT
    BB shows 2 pair KKTTQ
    the others are of no consequence.

    How'd it turn out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorburn
    .05/.1 limit

    Preflop, I'm MP4 with QdKd.

    3 limp to me, I raise, sb completes, bb completes, 2 more limpers, a reraise from MP3, I call, everyone else calls.

    Flop: 6s, 10s, Kh.

    All check to me, I bet, 3 limpers, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

    Turn: Qh

    sb checks, bb bets, everyone limps to me, I reraise, sb calls, bb 3 bets, 1 limper, a fold, I cap it, everyone else calls.

    Here I somewhat suspected a 3 kind, but holding a Q already, I decided that possibility was fairly unlikely. The pot was very large at this point, this is also a very low limit table, and players are very aggressive with very little.

    River: 4h.

    All three remaining players check to me. I considered betting, but with the number of chasers, I feared a flush attempt at a check raise. I checked to get to the showdown.

    Thoughts?
    If there has been a raise Pre-flop, then you cannot limp any more. Limping is only putting the minimum amount you can Pre-flop in an unraised pot. Anyt time there is a raise, they are now callers, not limpers. You can't limp at all post flop. Sorry that was bugging me.

    And unless you have some info on the BB that he is a decent player, assume he sucks at this limit. Therefore you should cap each street here. Its a +EV move at these limits.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrofoam
    very unlikely that there is a heart flush...it required (and would have hit) two runners to make it. With the betting capped twice, i just don't see how that could happen.
    You don't play that limit much do you?
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    You don't play that limit much do you?
    i guess not. Do people chase backdoors often? I still stand by my point...you're MUCH more likely to be against a broken Spades flush draw than a made heart one.

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    ^ Yes, constantly. People will call through the game with nothing but a Q high.

    I did bet on the flop, everyone just called. I capped on the turn. Do you think I should've bet, and if raised, capped it on the river?

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    I think a bet on the river, and if raised you're raised, you're beat but should call because of the pot size. Don't leave me hanging though...did you win, and what were you against?

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    BB had Q9o.

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    then i was way more than right. Its still the right call to bet, and call if raised.

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    You have to bet this hand on the river.

    There are 3 players who are almost certain to call you no matter WHAT they have (they always do, don't they?) If you get check/raised and lose, you've only lost 2 bets. You only have to win 40% of the time for this to be the best play, and with top 2 pair, you will easily.
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