did i play this hand right?
do u guys raise the river here?


Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, MP2 raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) , , (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

River: (6 BB) (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below:
Button has 5d Ad (two pair, aces and twos).
SB has Qd Jd (two pair, queens and jacks).
Hero has Kh Tc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB.

I value call here on the river... Its a new bettor leading out, so we really can't figure out what he's got. I call and expect to lose, but its only got to work 1 in 6 times to turn a profit......

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I fold that PF...if I wanted to play it PF, I fold it on the flop.

You have a PF raiser from MP that says he has a hand...It's a wider range then usual because he's opening the pot, but it's safe to give him credit for an A when the flop hits...at that point, unless you have a great read otherwise, your only draw is to the inside str8 and you don't have the odds for that...

when the str8 hits, I would have raised and kept raising. You might be beaten by the flush, but since the flush draw didn't hit till the turn I wouldn't put anybody on the FD so I figure them for TPMK or 2 pair...

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PF - In a loose game I would probably play this for one more bet in the BB.

Flop - inside str8 draw with MP2 bet giving me 9:1 pot odds - close enough to peel off one more card but if it misses I'm done with this hand.

Turn - my how generous of MP to give a free card - I'll take that!

River - wow - made the str8 but that 3rd club is a bit scary! I'll call but not raise and hope MP and Button only call also. Do I call a re-raise? No - if re-raised by MP or Button I have to figure either they or the SB has the flush.

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Yeah that free card is a puzzling move....I dont really understand why he didnt just bet the Ace he obviously had. The only other thing I would think is that maybe he had like A-2, and made a fullhouse. But then why would he raise Preflop with A-2? I agree with calling the one bet to see the turn.

I dont think I would have folded to a re-raise on the river though. With the made straight I would assume that I had won. It seems to me that most of time I dont see people chase the runner runner club draw.

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

I'd likely muck KTo PF.

Check on turn to me either = extreme strength or extreme weakness.

On river I wouldn't fear club flush because it's backdoor, and you got 10c making it even less likely they have it. So I guess you gotta ask yourself, did they fill on turn? TBH I don't think so. But that alone doesn't mean you should raise.

K I'd raise here for sure. If button 3 bets and SB caps, then I might muck, but i'd call a 3 bet for sure. I just think you got the best hand much more often than not, and you're very likely to get calls when you're ahead with the board looking the way it is.

Cheers,

Mike

You don't see people chasing runner-runner flush draws????? Man, at the low tables on PokerStars it's a given!!!! AND they don't need pot odds to justify the chase either!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

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And with the crazy odds on the flop and the free card, it's easy to back into it.

I definantly fold preflop, and I raise the river. Remember the goal of betting the river... either to make a better hand fold, or a worse hand call. You're clearly not making any better hands fold, and if someone has one, you're paying them 2 bets.

So are there enough hands that will pay you here to outweigh the flush and the boat costing you an extra bet? Sure there are... 3 broadway cards leads to LOTS of two pair/high pair situations. Very rarely is someone going to fold for one bet here with a decent hand, so you know you'll get paid if the better has anything, and you'll usually get a call or two from the other players as well.

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