Should I have gotten away from this?

Pok 7's · #1 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 08:47 AM

I pretty much pulled a Nemo here but looking over some of my AK hands I find there's alot of times I hold it for too long. I'm usually playing it in multiway pots and TPTK dosen't hold up alot it seems in that situation. Should I have tossed this hand at any point before the river? Generally I'll raise PF with this but there were alot of good points brought up between Beavis and Steve-O about AK in the blinds, so I vary raising or not and at this level raising rarely drives out anybody who has any $ in the pot PF so I opted for just a call here.

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with

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1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB)

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(6 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7 BB)

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (13 BB)

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, Button caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 25 BB

Results in white below:
MP2 has Js 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
Button has 3s 3d (full house, threes full of aces).
Hero has Kd Ah (full house, aces full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 25 BB.

Beavis68 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 08:57 AM

why would you ever fold this at this limit?

Pok 7's · #3 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beavis68

why would you ever fold this at this limit?

I don't know, would be +EV to play out any hand I have TPTK at this limit regardless of the betting or the board?

Beavis68 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 09:32 AM

I would need more reason to fold than I see here.

Girevik · #5 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 09:34 AM

Probably not, but I think you played it WAY too passively. I'd have rased PF and on the flop. If the flop gets capped then you may start thinking about being up against a set or two pair.

Phytopath · #6 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 09:45 AM

yeah I agree with Girevik, why were you playing it so weakly? You have to 3 bet that flop, you just call a 2-bet with what is probably the best hand and you are letting weaker hands draw too cheaply. The turn card is actually pretty good for you, I would definately lead out, this is where you would have possibly been able to get away from the hand, but since you went passive you don't know.

Pok 7's · #7 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 10:14 AM

I totally agree I was way passive on this it seems (at least at this limit) if an ace is out and someone raises into a bet on the flop and/or turn they tend to have a pair of aces beat already otherwise they'll just call or check call with a weak ace or, if they made any pair on the flop hoping to make 2 pair or or anything.

With 2 suited cards on a flop occasionally you'll get people who will raise a flush draw (and I don't know why I didn't 3 bet the flop other than being fairly new to the table so I didn't see how alot of people played hands) but.. most of the time regardless they won't raise again on the turn if they don't complete.

So honestly I felt I could be behind so I slowed down and opted for a check call in case I was.

Now granted I'm not saying I'm great at reading these tables by any means... but, based on the limited experience at this limit, this is what was running through my mind.

Girevik · #8 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 10:24 AM

You'd be surprised how strongly people will play a pair of aces with a medium (or even weak) kicker. Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair.

KINGJACK · #9 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Girevik

Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair.

LOL

I like the quote!!!

Girevik · #10 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 11:19 AM

WOO-HOO!! My first signature quote. I finally AM somebody!!!