
02-01-2006, 06:13 AM
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Anything wrong with this in the BB?
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  . MP2 posts a blind of $0.25. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (6 SB)  ,  , (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (7 BB) (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, SB folds, Hero calls.
River: (10 BB) (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 7d 5d (two pair, sevens and fives).
MP3 has Ah Ts (one pair, aces).
CO has 6d Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 13 BB.
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02-01-2006, 06:14 AM
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or this?
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  .
UTG raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (8.40 SB)  ,  , (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (5.70 BB) (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.
River: (8.70 BB) (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP3 folds, Hero raises, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 12.70 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Jc 2c (flush, ace high).
UTG has Ad Qc (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.70 BB.
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02-01-2006, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by The Real DeCoy
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  . MP2 posts a blind of $0.25. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (6 SB)  ,  , (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (7 BB) (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, SB folds, Hero calls.
River: (10 BB) (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 7d 5d (two pair, sevens and fives).
MP3 has Ah Ts (one pair, aces).
CO has 6d Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 13 BB.
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I'm not a big fan of this play.
this is how i would have thought it out in my head if i were playing...
first off, i dont like the bet on the flop. you have a LOW flush draw. I'd check, and MAYBE call to see the turn.
and second, MP3 RAISES your flop bet. Right there, i'd put him on Ad-xd. so TP + TFD. and 2 callers after that. no way would I make that call.
the turn obviously helped your cause a little, but you had to think you were still beat. so i like your check there, but MP3 bets again, and CO calls again. calling here is a tough call for me. 2 other players can very possibly have a better flush draw. and theres 2 overcards out there. I wouldnt have been in the hand anymore anyway though.
the river card was very nice for you. congrats. but i'm pulling the donk card on you.
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02-01-2006, 09:31 AM
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Let me explain why I raised the flop. My thought here was, if there is someone else sitting out there with 2 diamond cards they wont call 2 raises. I knew that someone was going to have an A or K and would reraise. This would eliminate non-nut flush draws.
I was clearly wrong, because the SB folded on the turn that was not a diamond so he was still on a draw. I check, MP3 bets (hes got an A), CO calls (probably a smaller pair -K I'd guess). Now there is 9BB in the pot and I've got 14 outs (I discounted to 9 for half the diamonds being good 46/9 approx 5 so I'm 4 to 1 to either hit 2 pair, trips or the flush) With the pot offering 9 to 1 I have to call.
I'd like some other thoughts on this. The hair was up on the back of my neck in this hand and I dont object against what scottie is saying so I would like some other opinions too.
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02-01-2006, 09:44 AM
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First hand, I raise on the river. Without a PF raise, I'm not too worried about AK. Just a mid range ace.
Second hand, I fold this PF, but I Like the rest....
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02-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scottieboy
MP3 RAISES your flop bet. Right there, i'd put him on Ad-xd. so TP + TFD. and 2 callers after that. no way would I make that call.
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You can't narrow down his range that far. The most you can assume is TPGK... And while that is scary enough, it is worth drawing here.
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02-01-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Marm
First hand, I raise on the river. Without a PF raise, I'm not too worried about AK. Just a mid range ace.
Second hand, I fold this PF, but I Like the rest....
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I didnt raise the river because I was exactly scared of a midrange A and that he may have it with 3 5 or 7 (of course the 5 and 7 are unlikely with 2 of each out). You are right though, thats probably a value bet miss.
I have no idea why I called the second hand. My thought was since 4 were seeing the flop I had some implied odds of 7 to 1. I think I got confused though with NL where 7 to 1 is a mandatory call and in limit it is not. Could you clarify this for me Marm (or other)? Am I a donk who thought, ITS SOOOOOTED? LOL!
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02-01-2006, 03:00 PM
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1st hand I like the flop bet, you have alot of equity here and with alot of players in, you want them to call. In this case I would be more worried about the CO cold calling 2 having a bigger flush draw than I would about MP3. Your thinking that people wont call 2 with a flush draw is quite flawed Decoy, raising isn't going to get people at .25/.5 to fold a 4 flush, and they are getting the right odds anyway. You definately should raise the river for value, you may be beat but hands worse than yours will call you so BET!
2nd hand, heh getting over 8:1 I would call. Thats a pretty sweet flop for you, depending on your read of UTG here. What are his UTG raising standards? again it depends on how predictable he is, you could donk the river if there is a reasonable chance he'll check behind you.
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02-01-2006, 03:31 PM
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I don't like better draws out of position, so I don't like the flop bet on hand 1.
Raise the river.
Hand2 is pretty boring.
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02-01-2006, 03:46 PM
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change my title babo
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Hand 1 I lead river
Hand 2 I checkraise and fire turn if he'll fold a crappy ace. If he will call down, just check call probably.
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