PS $10 SnG vs. $5 SnG

The Real DeCoy · #1 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 07:25 AM

I've now started playing both of these games. I'm finding the $10 equally successful except that at the $100/200 blinds there are 6-7 people remaining where the $5 there are usually one 3-5. Seems like people are less willing to donk off their stacks and have a little more patience, but aren't necessarily any better at NLHE.

Just thought I'd post my experiences for those of you who may have interest in moving up.

One other PS observation. Playing between 8-11P Est is the most difficult competition I encounter, presumably because the time is convenient for everyone in the US to play. I can still win in this time frame, but my likelihood of crapping out is a little bit higher.

Dizzy_Fuzz · #2 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 07:37 AM

I have a lot of success at the $3 level on PS, winning quite often and making the money on a regular basis which has improved my bankroll quite significantly.

I find at the $6 level there isnt too much difference, perhaps a few less fish, but they can always be found, I find I play best in the afternoon over here... which would be very early afternoon in the US, sort of between 4pm-7pm (UK) which would roughly equate to anything between 11am-2pm over there... perhaps people play in their lunch breaks so are rushing decisions....

The $12 SNGs ive noticed are a hell of a lot tighter. Mind you ive only played a handful, and havent cashed in a single one yet.

Jack King off · #3 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 01:22 AM

1. im pretty sure youre sample size is pretty small if you were complaining about not moneying in 3 s/gs. so just keep at it. the $10 will obviously be a little tougher

2. turbos are much more +ev. maybe you should look into trying them

3. 8-11pm est is by far the best time to play poker and s/gs

The Real DeCoy · #4 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 05:24 AM

The other thread was a joke thread. I hadn't moneyed, but I was jut kidding about the issue at hand. I moneyed in the next 3 out of 4 with 2 wins

dopemope223 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 08:55 PM

i was wondering how are turbos +ev, i always assume that the longer the blind structure and the bigger the stacks the more likely that better players will succeed in the end because they have more room to play there game. I always thought turbo's were more like the lottery, where you have to hit hands early or the blinds will destroy your stack? and in my experience i've found that the 10 and 5$ sng's on pokerstars don't vary much in level of play.

Dizzy_Fuzz · #6 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dopemope223

i was wondering how are turbos +ev, i always assume that the longer the blind structure and the bigger the stacks the more likely that better players will succeed in the end because they have more room to play there game. I always thought turbo's were more like the lottery, where you have to hit hands early or the blinds will destroy your stack? and in my experience i've found that the 10 and 5$ sng's on pokerstars don't vary much in level of play.

The turbos require a different type of skill since you cant neccesarily afford to play weak-tight, you need to loosen up and adapt your play to the players and the blinds.

Jack King off · #7 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 09:53 PM

there is obviously a lot more variance in turbos, but you are able to play so many more than regular s/gs.

also the rake is better. regulars are 5+50 and 10+1 and turbos are 6+50 and 15+1

another thing is once you learn how to play them, there arent that many tough choices. its either push or fold most of the time. in the regular s/gs you have to actually make decisions

gder03 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-01-2006, 10:27 PM

on UB, STT, rake is same for regular, turb, and ultra turb.

People say turb = all luck, but i disagree. Say the same 6 or 10 ppl play 1,000 turbo sngs. Winners and losers will emerge. The winners will be better at playing when there is more luck involved, while the losers will play worse when there is elevated luck. Adjust your game to coincide with the elevated luck. And over the long term, you will see that the game is just as steady as non-turb NLHE.

The Real DeCoy · #9 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack King off

there is obviously a lot more variance in turbos, but you are able to play so many more than regular s/gs.

also the rake is better. regulars are 5+50 and 10+1 and turbos are 6+50 and 15+1

another thing is once you learn how to play them, there arent that many tough choices. its either push or fold most of the time. in the regular s/gs you have to actually make decisions

The rake is not better, its just different. There are 9 players at a regual SnG and 10 at a Turbo on stars.

$5.50 $50 prize pool $5.00 fee 9 players
$6.50T $60 prize pool $5.00 fee 10 players
$3.40T $30 prize pool $4.00 fee 10 players

I haven't played a $15 yet so I can't comment. I dont know how mathematically you compare 10 players v. 9, but there probably is an equity difference there based on the fee vs. winning odds.

Phytopath · #10 (**permalink**) 02-02-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Real DeCoy

The rake is not better, its just different. There are 9 players at a regual SnG and 10 at a Turbo on stars.

$5.50 $50 prize pool $5.00 fee 9 players
$6.50T $60 prize pool $5.00 fee 10 players
$3.40T $30 prize pool $4.00 fee 10 players

I haven't played a $15 yet so I can't comment. I dont know how mathematically you compare 10 players v. 9, but there probably is an equity difference there based on the fee vs. winning odds.

err no, when you are paying less % on vig it is better, think about it Decoy

Regular SnG 5 +.5 or 10 + 1, is 10%
turbo SnG 6 +.5 or 15 +1, is 8.3 and 6.7% respectively which is much better.

FYI all tournament tables are 9 handed on stars.