Should I have folded?

MTdemocrat · #1 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 02:09 PM

Yes, its play money. But I am trying to learn the game w/o spending cash, as a broke college kid its tough to find even 20 bucks.

PokerStars Game #3808704025: Tournament #18917686, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/01/30 - 17:52:18 (ET)
Table '18917686 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: -Ballar.inc- (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: dmb2116 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: Nojjy (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: GUNNR2X (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: jmjiv (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Downtime57 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: MiD-28-NiGhT (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: mudhen55 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: rockitman593 (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: MTdemocrat (1500 in chips)
dmb2116: posts small blind 10
Nojjy: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MTdemocrat [6h 6c]
GUNNR2X: calls 20
Downtime57 said, "ty u2"
jmjiv has timed out
jmjiv: folds
jmjiv is sitting out
Downtime57: calls 20
MiD-28-NiGhT: folds
mudhen55: calls 20
rockitman593: calls 20
MTdemocrat: raises 80 to 100
-Ballar.inc-: folds
dmb2116: calls 90
Nojjy: folds
GUNNR2X: calls 80
Downtime57: calls 80
mudhen55: calls 80
rockitman593: raises 1400 to 1500 and is all-in
MTdemocrat: calls 1400 and is all-in
dmb2116: folds
GUNNR2X: folds
Downtime57: folds
mudhen55: calls 1400 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4h Th 8c]
*** TURN *** [4h Th 8c] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [4h Th 8c 3h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mudhen55: shows [Ah 9h] (a flush, Ace high)
rockitman593: shows [As 5h] (a flush, Jack high)
MTdemocrat: shows [6h 6c] (a flush, Jack high)
mudhen55 collected 4820 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4820 | Rake 0
Board [4h Th 8c 3h Jh]
Seat 1: -Ballar.inc- (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: dmb2116 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Nojjy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: GUNNR2X folded before Flop
Seat 5: jmjiv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Downtime57 folded before Flop
Seat 7: MiD-28-NiGhT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mudhen55 showed [Ah 9h] and won (4820) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: rockitman593 showed [As 5h] and lost with a flush, Jack high
Seat 10: MTdemocrat showed [6h 6c] and lost with a flush, Jack high

1 all in in front of me, should I have folded?

Beavis68 · #2 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 02:23 PM

yes, fold.

MTdemocrat · #3 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 02:26 PM

Thanks Beavis. I was really hoping you would be one of the one's to respond here, you seem to know a ton about the game.

At what point (which pocket pair) do you start calling all in's? 10's? K's? A's(well obviously)?

The Real DeCoy · #4 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 03:39 PM

With 66 against multiple callers I don't raise. Especially this early in a tourney. I want to see a cheap flop either paired with a low card or two high cards with a big juicy 6 in it. Hitting a set is most of the equity of this hand. The raise prices you out. If you call, you conceal your monster if it hits and if not you can bow out cheaply. Your raise got you in trouble. You raise, get reraised, and then you probably felt like you were getting bullied off the pot and wouldn't tolerate it. There is no room for your ego in poker.

66 is a marginal hand. You are too often dominated.

Since the other chap went all in, I'd want to have AKs or QQ+ to even risk calling this early in a tourney. The upside is a double up, the downside is being first out and feeling like a chump.

drew15a · #5 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 03:49 PM

I agree with the above comments.

1) see a cheap flop...just call
2) if it is raised behind you call only if most people in front make the call

Most of the time sixes will not hold up unless you hit one of your 2 outs (a six)

I am not sure how it is on poker stars...but on party poker there is always someone going all in on the first hand on a MTT. I might consider folding the sixes on that first hand... depends on my position.

gder03 · #6 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 04:13 PM

i like this call for 20. however once its raised to 100 you should fold. If you were last to act, and you saw that everyone called the 100, you'd be getting the same odds, and calling would be an option. However you were first behind the raise.

I see eventually you call for 1500. this is a fish play. weather its HU, or 3-way. no need to go all in with 66, when you have 100bb.

MTdemocrat · #7 (**permalink**) 01-30-2006, 07:51 PM

much thanks! You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the advice.

KINGJACK · #8 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 12:05 AM

You dont want to be all in even HU with a hand like 66...
Especialy early in a tournament...

The only hands I would have called with here are AA or KK... Obviously your oponents were donkeys, but most of the time you wil be facing higher PP or AK at best.

just limp this hand and fold if you dont hit the flop. It will pay a lot more like that...

KJ

Girevik · #9 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 07:09 AM

I would have just checked pre flop and played for set value. Since you did raise, I deffinately fold to the reraise.

Pok 7's · #10 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTdemocrat

Yes, its play money. But I am trying to learn the game w/o spending cash, as a broke college kid its tough to find even 20 bucks.

What you might want to consider doing is playing on sites that offer freerolls. I know Absolute used to have them (I assume they still do). But if you're going to play in play money tournies you might as well do it in the ones that will give you $ for making the final table. Basically all the above comments cover the hand pretty good. In MTT's you can attempt 2 basic strategies, try to win big early on and build a stack, then play tight aggressive, then try for steals when the blinds get high. Or just play ONLY solid hands (or try for cheap flops with hands like these to see if they hit) and get you're $ in when you feel you have the best of it and let the other loose players pay off your good hands.