Fold AKs before flop... what does it take?

**mik1w** · 01-29-2006

PokerStars Game #3794375234: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/01/29 - 11:59:04 (ET)
Table 'Saskia II' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: derstev ($4.23 in chips)
Seat 2: ram6968 ($4.96 in chips)
Seat 3: Mik1w ($4.52 in chips)
Seat 4: Abels ($1.25 in chips)
Seat 6: MojneNime ($3.39 in chips)
Seat 7: weeks311 ($3.88 in chips)
Seat 8: mdoll ($2.79 in chips)
Seat 9: flushitagain ($2 in chips)
ram6968: posts small blind $0.01
Mik1w: posts big blind $0.02
flushitagain: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mik1w [Ad Kd]
Abels: folds
MojneNime: calls $0.02
weeks311: raises $3.86 to $3.88 and is all-in
mdoll: folds
flushitagain: folds
derstev: folds
ram6968: folds
Mik1w: folds
MojneNime: folds
weeks311 collected $0.09 from pot
weeks311: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***

Didn't have time to get a read on weeks311. I had just beaten him and doubled up from about £2.50 with a nut flush and so I figure this may be tilt with a pocket pair or any decent hand, but I didn't want to risk it. Would you fold?

**JasonWillett** · 01-29-2006

a/k suited, I would have called it, especially if he just lost a big hand and there's a slight chance he's on tilt.

**Dizzy_Fuzz** · 01-29-2006

Originally Posted by JasonWillett

a/k suited, I would have called it, especially if he just lost a big hand and there's a slight chance he's on tilt.

Yea if you busted him last hand then im thinking he could be tilting... your behind to most pocket pairs unimproved and I cant see him having anything much better than AK otherwise.

Im calling this also.

**Marm** · 01-29-2006

Insta-Fucking-Call.

this is the micro limits dude. Don't make laydowns just it makes you feel special. I'm going to say it, *GASP*, That was a weak-tight play.

**PowerfulRog** · 01-29-2006

How can you not call that?

**gder03** · 01-29-2006

calling this is stupid. good fold. your only beating Ax and Kx.

**mik1w** · 01-29-2006

Im not proud of it really If he had $1 or less I may well have called it... I just wasnt convinced he was on tilt. All I knew is AA or KK have me killed pretty much and I never really liked 2 overcards vs a pocket pair from my limited experience. Its just that Id won a bit, and didn't feel the need to gamble it against what is at best maybe a 55% chance of winning... is this justified?

**Marm** · 01-29-2006

Originally Posted by gder03

calling this is stupid. good fold. your only beating Ax and Kx.

You really going to fold this at .01/.02 ($5NL)????? I insta call and do the cheat reload.

Im not proud of it really If he had $1 or less I may well have called it... I just wasnt convinced he was on tilt. All I knew is AA or KK have me killed pretty much and I never really liked 2 overcards vs a pocket pair from my limited experience. Its just that Id won a bit, and didn't feel the need to gamble it against what is at best maybe a 55% chance of winning... is this justified?

You are way above 55%. At these limits, people are apt to push with T9s just to buy a pot. And even if we are only 55%, thats a 10% edge in equity over your oppenent, isn't that enough +EV to make it worth playing?

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 60.7612 % 58.12% 02.64% { AcKc }
Hand 2: 39.2388 % 36.60% 02.64% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 59.5223 % 53.66% 05.86% { AcKc }
Hand 2: 40.4777 % 34.62% 05.86% { TT+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+ }

**worldofchaos** · 01-29-2006

Originally Posted by Marm

You really going to fold this at .01/.02 ($5NL)????? I insta call and do the cheat reload.

What is the cheat reload?

**Marm** · 01-29-2006

Its not really a cheat, more of a "bug" in the PS software. They are very aware of it, yet choose not to plug it. Its where if you are all in (in a cash game), you can add more chips to your stack by clicking on the dealer. It allows you to rapidly build a huge stack way above the table max.

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