STAGE #279036222: HOLDEM NORMAL $1/$2 - 2006-01-27 13:00:57 (ET)
Table: CALLE DE AMOR (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - MARM ($57.75 in chips)
Seat 6 - JERSEYAP ($94 in chips)
Seat 7 - ACE BABA ($22.44 in chips)
Seat 8 - KORVACCIA ($100.25 in chips)
Seat 9 - LVK62GZK59AG ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - IMNOTAC ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 2 - FN0RD ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 3 - SRGASTROS84 ($12 in chips)
Seat 4 - MANIDOO ($97.87 in chips)
JERSEYAP - Posts small blind $0.50
ACE BABA - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to MARM [ ]
KORVACCIA - Folds
LVK62GZK59AG - Folds
IMNOTAC - Calls $1
FN0RD - Folds (Timeout)
SRGASTROS84 - Folds
MANIDOO - Raises $2 to $2
MARM - Raises $3 to $3
JERSEYAP - Folds
ACE BABA - Raises $3 to $4
IMNOTAC - Folds
MANIDOO - Calls $2
MARM - Calls $1

Flop:
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ACE BABA - Bets $1
MANIDOO - Calls $1
MARM - Calls $1

Turn:
[ ] [ ]
ACE BABA - Bets $2
MANIDOO - Folds
MARM - Raises $4 to $4
ACE BABA - Raises $4 to $6
MARM - Raises $4 to $8
ACE BABA - Calls $2

River:
[ ] [ ]
ACE BABA - Checks
MARM - ??????

So I have him 50/50 on KK or QQ. I flat called the flop to get the rock to my right to call another bet on the turn, but that backfired.

What does Ace have?

Preflop I would have said K's, Q's or AK. His river play makes AK unlikely, I think, so like you I'd say K's or Q's. He's been aggressive the whole way until the river, so I'm not sure I'd think he's going for a checkriaise. I'd have to guess he's got Q's and is afraid you have a K.

I'd say Queens or maybe even 10's

looking post flop I thought AT, but given the pre-flop action and the river action I would say JJ or QQ, I don't think he has a set.

Originally Posted by Beavis68

looking post flop I thought AT, but given the pre-flop action and the river action I would say JJ or QQ, I don't think he has a set.

you're good beav

Originally Posted by Beavis68

looking post flop I thought AT, but given the pre-flop action and the river action I would say JJ or QQ, I don't think he has a set.

This was my initial thought too so I agree with Beavis. However I do know that I'm checking the river. I got plenty of action on my AA and if they are good I'll live with missing the extra BB.

The only other thing I am thinking here is this guy is only sitting with 11BB in the first place so he could be a donkfish playing a smaller pp and wasnt afraid of the flop.

I await patiently for the answer. It will probably be something like 7d8d with the OESD and flush draw on the turn with a bunch of retarded value bets.

something makes me think JQs. Raise, then a bad call to the re-raise. Saw an 8 outer and went for the straight draw, then got nowhere. Doesnt explain the raise on the turn though.. except maybe both are diamonds... that would give him millions of outs. Then he sees you betting each time, maybe was going for a check raise?

Or 8Js and he was just absolutely rubbish pre flop?

I may have to agree with QQ/JJ, both seem very likely.

Originally Posted by mik1w

Then he sees you betting each time, maybe was going for a check raise?

That depends on how big an idiot they guy is. Only an idot would bet all three streets and expect a check-raise to work on the river. But if he IS an idiot and you get check-raised, are you the bigger idiot for falling for it?

I say Qs... or AA aswell...

Why would he checks the river with KK, you shown strenght and you definately have the odds to call... so you will. Checking the river can ,make Qs or JavaScript check behind and lost a big bet.

KJ

Given that you raised and reraised him on the turn, i don't see why he would try for the check-raise of the river (its very rarely the correct play). So i think the check shows weakness, so he probably doesn't have 99, TT, or KK. Given the reraise preflop its reasonbly safe to eliminate a hand with a 3 in it, or KT, 9T, K9. I refuse to blieve that anyone would play QJ like that, even . I would bet the river, and expect to be called. Most likely hand i'd think would be QQ or JJ.