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Thread: AA early in SnG

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    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1440)
    MP2 (t1520)
    Hero (t1660)
    CO (t1400)
    Button (t1150)
    SB (t1220)
    BB (t2110)
    UTG (t1500)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , .
    3 folds, MP2 calls t20, Hero raises to t60, CO calls t60, 3 folds, MP2 calls t40.

    I was torn (with the limpers) on raise amount. I wanted callers, but I wanted folders also...After looking at it, I should have gone a little higher...maybe 120?


    Flop: (t210) , , (3 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero bets t220, CO calls t220, MP2 folds.

    With the 2 spades I didn't want to give flush drawers odds to draw...Could I have gone a little higher given that the K was on the board so there is likely somebody hit TP but second best hand?

    Turn: (t650) (2 players)
    Hero bets t450, CO raises to t900, Hero raises to t1380, CO calls t220 (All-In).

    Not sure exactly what happened here...but I feel I did what I could to show the guy I had him beaten...Small trips was about my only worry, but I figured if he had 88, he would have probably folded to the bet on the flop...99 was possible (as well as 22 I guess with the small PF raise). I just felt that I had to call the 900 raise...but that left me pot committed, so I might as well push...

    River: (t3150) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t3150

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
    CO has Kh JavaScript (one pair, kings).
    Outcome: Hero wins t3150.


    All comments are welcome, but I'm specifically looking for answeres to the questions I asked.
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    you played it right. The only person calling your raise in the flop was TPTK....you priced out the flush draws. You had him nailed and then he got stupid and reraised you on the turn.


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    He would have bet me off that pot.

    I HATE calling bets in NL tourneys. I hardly ever do it after the flop. As you said, you were saying "Strong hand here!" and he played back at you on the turn when it was expensive. Especially with his leaving those chips behind instead of pushing, I'm thinking set.

    Because of the way the hand worked out, I may have called all-in anyway getting what, 3-1 on your money with an overpair on a suited board. The chance that he's semi-bluffing or an idiot would provide the odds to call there... but I would call expecting to be beat.
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    I don't play PS SnGs, but I like betting more early. You are giving too good of implied odds with the small bet and I won't fold AA in a SnG post flop most times - I won't fold any overpair usually.

    I probably would have overbet the pot a bit on the flop. I like to take pots down quickly in single table SnGs. I don't care as much about getting full value for my hands like I would in an MTT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trons
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed)
    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , .
    3 folds, MP2 calls t20, Hero raises to t60, CO calls t60, 3 folds, MP2 calls t40.

    I was torn (with the limpers) on raise amount. I wanted callers, but I wanted folders also...After looking at it, I should have gone a little higher...maybe 120?
    So early into the tourney, you haven't as yet established a table image to be feared or respected so 3x BB would only be regarded as a standard raise by most. A 6x BB raise may have gotten the attention of the more aware/savvy players but at this time the less aware, loose and more aggressive would only see this as a pot builder and still cheap enough to call with just about anything. So while 120 may have worried a better player (I would be thinking 99-QQ or A-Ko), the less aware and aggressive players would still have called with small pairs and suited connectors (some wouldn't even need the connectors to be suited).

    Actually I think you played it very well especially the pot size bet on the flop. My thoughts are simualar to your's although I am amazed how often a loose-aggressive will still chase runner-runner after I bet the pot on the flop.
    But as I've said before, "I don't mind a fish playing stupid - I just hate it when they get rewared for it at my expense!"

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    sounds good to me, but I always go all in preflop with AA early in a SNG.

    But you definately played it right...

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    raise this to a 100 preflop.
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    I've been burned almost every time I've called a reraise, so, like touching fire, I stopped doing it.

    There's always those times when it's really just ribbon-paper with creative lighting and a fan, but in the long run I've had more success being better safe than sorry. Now if it's a massive stack at the table later in the tourny that is pushing 3xBB and whatnot, I tend to think they are just using their chips as all bark and no bite. That's sent me packing a few times too

    If I had pocket-rocket's with a K on the board, I would violate my rule, but I'd rather look at the mistakes the other guy made, because you seemed to play it solid.

    If I had TPTK with a bet as large as you put in facing me, I'd fold it.

    A 450$ bet with stacks that small at the table would tell me 2P or trips+. Of course I'm wrong in your case, but it's moot.

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