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    Default Hand Win Chart

    I apologize in advance if this has been answered previously.

    I'm looking for a chart of all the possible starting hole cards and their heads up (and/or multiple winning rates). These are taken from computer probability runs.. Preferably I'd want something with at least a million hands played.

    I've been using some of this info from the Illustrated Guide to Poker, and find this info extremely valuable in tournaments, but also in ring games as well, when pot odds are in question.

    Thanks in advance,

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    EV by hand

    Also Equity vs # of opponents chart:
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    Does equity mean the same as expected value? I see equity used alot but the literal meaning of the word in mortgaging context is confusing me. Equity means the portion that you own; which, in poker is never anything until the hand is closed. So can someone please explain "equity" in poker terms if it is not expected value?

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    In the first link EV by hand I'm assuming the numbers it shows are BB/100?

    Also so I know if I'm understanding this pot equity thing fully.... with Marms chart you can basically compare "outs x 4" for your hand against that chart to see if would have the correct pot equity? (if that makes sense)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    EV by hand

    Also Equity vs # of opponents chart:
    Wow perfect, thanks. However, could you tell me the source of this? Comparing it to the chart in my book, the numbers are off (Just doing this by memory, by around +- 2%. Do you know how many hands were played, etc?

    I just want to make sure I don't memorize incorrect data..
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    First Kid, You don't need to memorize this, unless you're going on Jeporady

    Secondly, it was taken from Gocee.com, and was found imperically though computer sims of millions of hands.
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    Are there any other ones, so I can compare? Again.. just don't want to put these to memory and find out I learned incorrect data..

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    Why are we memorizing?

    And you can use PokerStove to compare, it uses the empiracl and Monte Carlo sims....
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    Harrington on Holdem Vol2 probably has what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    Why are we memorizing?
    Cause I suck..

    Doesn't hurt to memorize.
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