this seems like a common occurance in the low limit online games. just an outrageous overbet and you are put to a tough decision.

just out of curiosity lets see how you all would have played this hand, then ill tell you what he showed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) converter

UTG ($23.40)
MP1 ($16.25)
MP2 ($24.15)
CO ($4.50)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($22.10)
BB ($25.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB folds, MP2 folds, Button raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $3, Button raises to $23.9, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $27.90

i dont think its a terrible laydown....he limped in like you...could be on the bottom end of a straight and its probably not a good idea to find out.

Originally Posted by The Real DeCoy

i dont think its a terrible laydown....he limped in like you...could be on the bottom end of a straight and its probably not a good idea to find out.

ditto. although, if i were actually playing id ponder forever like... why the huge overbet into like.. a $5 pot before he pushed allin? and i probably would have called in your spot thinking he would slow play some kind of straight. but then again i lose a lot of money like that so... meh

thats what i thought, at first when he raised me i put him on something like a lower 2 pair or 9T or something, so i figured i would raise about the pot. when he came over the top for all his chips the first thing i did was look at the pot. i had to call all of my $20 some dollars in chips to see a $20 some dollar pot. at that point i knew i had to lay it down, because my gut instinct was he was protecting his set or small straight against what he thought i probably had (big pair and straight draw, like TT, 9t, JJ,) it just wasnt worth it on a hand where i felt like most of the time i was beat. now, if he gave me 4:1 on that same hand i would call all day long. for instance in the very next hand i raised on the button with 88, flopped a set on a 3 spade board. i bet, he moves in and gave me about 3:1 with a hand thats winning most of the time, and in the worst case scenario i will fill up 1:4 times. easy call.

the point of this was, i see this play ALL the time online, and all you have to do when you decide to call/fold is figure out how often you will be beat in this situation, combine that with,(judging by the way he played the hand) what you think he has, and see if the pot odds presented are right enough to call knowing you will be beaten x% of the time.

oh, and in the 2 pair hand, before i folded i told him i was laying down 2 pair, so he was nice and showed me a flopped small straight

If it's the third bet in the pot I would lay it down, but if his raise was the second bet I'd think the odds of him bluffing with a straight draw there were unusually high.

Originally Posted by tightagressive

thats what i thought, at first when he raised me i put him on something like a lower 2 pair or 9T or something, so i figured i would raise about the pot. when he came over the top for all his chips the first thing i did was look at the pot. i had to call all of my $20 some dollars in chips to see a $20 some dollar pot. at that point i knew i had to lay it down, because my gut instinct was he was protecting his set or small straight against what he thought i probably had (big pair and straight draw, like TT, 9t, JJ,) it just wasnt worth it on a hand where i felt like most of the time i was beat. now, if he gave me 4:1 on that same hand i would call all day long. for instance in the very next hand i raised on the button with 88, flopped a set on a 3 spade board. i bet, he moves in and gave me about 3:1 with a hand thats winning most of the time, and in the worst case scenario i will fill up 1:4 times. easy call.

the point of this was, i see this play ALL the time online, and all you have to do when you decide to call/fold is figure out how often you will be beat in this situation, combine that with,(judging by the way he played the hand) what you think he has, and see if the pot odds presented are right enough to call knowing you will be beaten x% of the time.

oh, and in the 2 pair hand, before i folded i told him i was laying down 2 pair, so he was nice and showed me a flopped small straight

and thats why i lose money