Laying down Aces.....right or wrong?

**Mr.McJ** · 01-19-2006

I hate laydowns. I never know if I've made the right move or not.

Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #19,075,381
Table Bursa, 19 Jan 2006 08:17 PM

Seat 1: kKevnb ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 2: greedy33 ($88.20 in chips)
Seat 3: donkchaser ($120.40 in chips)
Seat 4: wonkers ($71.10 in chips)
Seat 5: maj1kst1k ($98.95 in chips)
Seat 6: PGAthebub ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Piklish ($199 in chips)
Seat 8: MrMcj [AH,AC] ($111.70 in chips)
Seat 9: boondoggle6 ($106 in chips)
Seat 10: hazeydavey ($92 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
PGAthebub posts blind ($0.50), Piklish posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
MrMcj calls $1, boondoggle6 folds, hazeydavey folds, kKevnb folds, greedy33 folds, donkchaser folds, wonkers folds, maj1kst1k folds, PGAthebub calls $0.50, Piklish bets $3, MrMcj calls $3, PGAthebub folds.

FLOP [board cards JavaScript,5S,9H ]
Piklish checks, MrMcj bets $4, Piklish bets $13, MrMcj calls $9.

TURN [board cards JavaScript,5S,9H,KS ]
Piklish bets $20, MrMcj folds.

SHOWDOWN
Piklish wins $53.

SUMMARY
Dealer: maj1kst1k
Pot: $55, (including rake: $2)
kKevnb, loses $0
greedy33, loses $0
donkchaser, loses $0
wonkers, loses $0
maj1kst1k, loses $0
PGAthebub, loses $1
Piklish, bets $37, collects $53, net $16
MrMcj, loses $17
boondoggle6, loses $0
hazeydavey, loses $0

**Beavis68** · 01-19-2006

what were you thinking on every street?

**The Real DeCoy** · 01-19-2006

I would bet that he didnt think through each street. How do you not reraise AA preflop?

**Mr.McJ** · 01-19-2006

I'll be the first to admit I'm an amateur, and probably not a really good one at that. I've only been playing since Sept 05 so I haven't gotten a lot of experience. Excuses aside....

PF:
- I'm thinking I'm going to slow play my A's since I've been getting some good hands recently and making a lot of PF raises. I also think to myself "I'm going to lay these down if things get too ugly."
- Piklish bets and I think "if I raise here, it's going to look very suspicious. I want action so I'll just flat call his raise."

Flop:
- When he checks, I find this a little odd. Usually someone raising PF is going to put in a mandatory bet on the flop, especially one like this.
- I bet and he raises. I'm thinking trips. Jacks? Maybe 9s?...although honestly, I usually assume trips when I'm check-raised on the flop.
- I call in the hopes that I spike an A or maybe he checks to me again.

Turn:
- He bets and I still think trips. I fold.

After the hand I bug him, trying to guess what he has or get him to tell me. He claims he only had A/K but then he also said "i hope you enjoy tilting" or something like that, so who knows.

**gder03** · 01-19-2006

how the hell can you play like this? this makes me feel sad.

Raise this shit up preflop when that dude raises to $3. make it like $13-$15 to go.

Rest, I can't comment on b/c so pporly played.

**Mr.McJ** · 01-19-2006

So the solution is to never slow play A's?
I guess when I get better at reading my opponent then it is something I can try?

**The Real DeCoy** · 01-19-2006

1. You need to play a lower limit. This is above your head. Whats your bankroll?
2. You need to reraise this preflop. Id go with 3 times the raisers raise.
3. I'm still probably pushing the flop, but since we have no info on his hand from the preflop I really am making a loose statement here.

In ring you really need to protect your AA.

**Mr.McJ** · 01-19-2006

1. You need to play a lower limit. This is above your head. Whats your bankroll?

I was playing the $0.25 tables up until 3-4 days ago. I moved up to the $1 tables and was doing really well at first but had a really bad day today (as outlined above. lol.) My bankroll was $550 at the start of the day but I'm down to $250 after today (see here for more details.)

2. You need to reraise this preflop. Id go with 3 times the raisers raise.

Would you have raised from UTG or would you have waited like I did and then re-raise when the BB raised it? If UTG, how much are you raising, 3xBB?

**gder03** · 01-19-2006

poorr BR management. you need atleast 1k if you wanna play $.5-1nl effectively.

**Eclipse86** · 01-19-2006

never slow play aces like this preflop.. i understand if u want to limp in UTG so that u can re-raise if someone raises to try to make more money.. but just flat out calling someones raise is never good... whenever u slow play aces like this preflop, implied odds will be against you (chances are u won't be able to lay it down if someone flops a set on you)..

on ur flop, u need to raise again.. he check-raises you to $13.. i 2nd raise him to $33..

with a $250 bankroll.. i think u need to stick with 5c/10c games for now

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