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  1. 01-18-2006 #1
    mxp2004
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    Here's a hand that I played in a SNG:

    PokerStars Game #3683744886: Tournament #18289157, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/01/19 - 00:10:36 (ET)
    Table '18289157 1' Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: MidleAgesMan (1950 in chips)
    Seat 2: Rbros (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: DaBombMan (1480 in chips)
    Seat 4: ZenMster (1480 in chips)
    Seat 5: Gradient (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: CoWBoYJonk (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: M.F.McKale (1100 in chips)
    Seat 8: ribsim (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: mxp2004 (1500 in chips)
    DaBombMan: posts small blind 10
    ZenMster: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mxp2004 [As Qh]
    M.F.McKale said, "nh"
    Gradient: folds
    CoWBoYJonk: folds
    M.F.McKale: folds
    MidleAgesMan said, "thx"
    ribsim: calls 20
    mxp2004: raises 60 to 80
    MidleAgesMan: calls 80
    Rbros: folds
    DaBombMan: folds
    ZenMster: calls 60
    ribsim: calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [Th Jc 9s]
    ZenMster: checks
    ribsim: checks
    mxp2004: bets 200
    MidleAgesMan: raises 200 to 400
    ZenMster: calls 400
    ribsim: folds
    mxp2004: calls 200
    *** TURN *** [Th Jc 9s] [8d]
    ZenMster: checks
    mxp2004: bets 500
    MidleAgesMan: folds
    ZenMster: folds
    mxp2004 collected 1530 from pot
    mxp2004: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1530 | Rake 0
    Board [Th Jc 9s 8d]
    Seat 1: MidleAgesMan folded on the Turn
    Seat 2: Rbros (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: DaBombMan (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: ZenMster (big blind) folded on the Turn
    Seat 5: Gradient folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: CoWBoYJonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: M.F.McKale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: ribsim folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: mxp2004 collected (1530)

    I decided to make a small bet relative to the pot to induce some calls, but on reflection, I think that was a big mistake. I should have checked the turn with the nuts. Unless a set was out there (and there was no evidence of that), there was no card that could fall on the river which would cause me to lose the pot. Thus, this was a good hand to slowplay and see if one the remaining players might bet a second-best hand.

    Does anyone disagree?
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  2. 01-18-2006 #2
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    flop check prolly.

    turn correct to bet. someone could have set or two pair. Q drops and hand with K wins.. unlikely but possible.

    pot = about 1.5k so 500 is perfect. you gotta think the guy who raise your flop is gunna stay. that turn is an ugly card for most hands, so even if you check to the river, you will get little action.
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  3. 01-18-2006 #3
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    i probably slow down a little bit on the turn.. i probably bet about 300, or 1/4 potsize.. however, i still think u played it well
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  4. 01-18-2006 #4
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    Hindsight being 20/20 I guess you could have slowplayed the nut str8 but a 1/3 bet isn't all that aggressive if anyone has two pair or a set. I think you played it well as it was.
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  5. 01-19-2006 #5
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    I think a slow play might not be the greatest play here. The question is what hand could anyone possible catch that would get you paid? There's no hand anyone can catch that you can beat that will be crazy enough to bet, hence you are giving away people a free opportunity to beat you (for instance, a free shot at a Q or a two pair hand a free shot at a board) You might be able to catch a bluff if you slowplay, but I think you are more likely to have some fool call you with top pair or two pair thinking you might be bluffing than hoping someone will bet 2 pair or a hand like that on a 4 straight board. IMO.

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  6. 01-19-2006 #6
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    I don't like getting too tricky in SnGs, I think you played it fine.
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  7. 01-19-2006 #7
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    Considering the SNG just started you probably didnt have much of a read on this guy, but considering MidleAgesMan was the raiser on the flop, I could see him betting the turn if checked to him.
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