What is more advantageous? ive always been taught that position is the most important thing, other than your hole cards and stack of course

If you have earlier position than your opponent and you raise him, he needs a better hand to call than he would if the positions were reversed. However if you were acting last you have a positional advantage...which is better?

Pre flop, post flop? In theory if you raise pre flop then yes whoever behind you SHOULD have a better hand but that's not always the case. Post flop you have to be fairly sure you're not getting set up for a possible trap which is why you would generally want to be doing it with hands that can hold up unimproved. Being late in position generally gives you the option to better determine the strength of your hand especially post flop.

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it all depends really.

but, essentially, position is always the biggest advantage you can have b/c you'll get info(reads, bets, etc.) before you make your move.

so you'll always be able to make a more educated play than UTG, and everybody before you can make.

Needing a bigger hand to call is not a disadvantage. In late position you get to pick your battles... if the pot has allready been opened up, you can make the decision to let the so-far small pot go with no loss, or to go after the raiser with what you have. You never get involved in pots with marginal hands against people with monsters.

Yes you sometimes have to fold your KJs lol... but this really isn't a disadvantage... those hands are only profitable if nobody else has a hand, and the earlier position player is telling you that he does!

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I've actually been thinking about this quite a bit lately...I haven't figured out how to organize my thoughts enough to post yet...I'll try since it's been brought up...

Personally, it really depends on what kind of hand I have as to whether I want to be in late position or not...If I'm on AA,KK,QQ, I would almost rather get them from EP then LP. Mainly because I want to be able to open raise. This increases the fishes mistake of just cold calling (which most do). This also drives people out (if I'm on QQ or something similar) lowering the chances that I'll lose if an over card hits. I also like these hands post flop because the continuation bet will put pressure on the other players, on every street if I like the board.

With more drawing hands, I prefer late position, Even AK I would rather have on the button. If there are bunch of limpers, I can build a big pot to cover the times it doesn't hit and I have to let it go...This also allows me to get a feel for what other people have and how much they like the flop before I have to act. I can also play a little looser from late position for these same reasons...

In the end...I think position is important, but the reasons change based on the hands you're playing and your style.

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If you guys can get your hands on TPFAP, sklansky covers the Gap Concept in depth. I think HoH covers it a bit too.

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I would always rather get dealt AA in late position.

If you are first to act, what do you do?

You may raise to 6BB and get no calls - undesirable
You may raise to 3BB and get several calls - undesirable
You may limp in hoping to reraise and nobody raises so you can end up in a multiway unraised pot - undesirable.

Ideally you want to see a bit of action, maybe 2 calls then a raise, before you act so that you can know how much you feel you need to raise to either take the pot down or limit your number of callers.

Also if there is no action before you and you are in late position, you are more likely to get action since people may interpret a late position raise as a blind steal.

It really depends on the table. If I'm at a table with a lot of raising, I'd consider a limp-reraise. If it's a very timid table I'd raise 2 or 3 BB. If it's very loose I'd consider raising 5 or evern 10BB.

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I'm CDO. It's like OCD, but everying is in order just like it should be.

I love the late position as it gives me a better idea over who's got what. If everybody checks I know to raise. If someone re-raises then I have to assume they have a very strong hand and they're trying to reel me in.

I also like it for the check raise. I flopped a full house (3s over 8s) last night purely by fluke as I'd paid the big blind and my opponents limped in. I had to check to keep those bastards in and 'cause I was in last position they all assumed I had a weak hand. The turn was an A so I got a couple of raises in front of me and was able to re-raise, keeping those suckers (well actually, they were my mates) in the game.

I kind of felt guilty after the night had ended as I'm regularly taking money off my friends at the moment. Bottom line, position for me is paramount.

You have a terrible misunderstanding of poker.
Ideally, you would like 21 or 22 calls: I forget which it is.

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