Originally Posted by Marm

Being known as the tighest player at your Tourny table...

I don't understand this "I'm the tightest player at the table therefore anytime one of my chips touch the middle, I should be 'feared' " mentality. Where does it come from? How is everyone supposed to know that you're a tight player? Why should they know? Is there a certain procedure that people are to follow when you make a move... any move?

The reason why tight players, or people with standards, do well is because everyone else DOES NOT acknowledge their play and it comes from nowhere. I say "people with standards" because playing tight does not mean that there are uniform hands that you play and those that you don't. Tight players just simply [incorporate] their position, odds, and other's holdings in their decisions whereas loose players play their cards regardless of position, odds, and/or the other players' holdings.

I've become sick of players beginning posts with their credentials on the amount of hands that they play prior to the hand that's up for discussion. Everyone read the books. Everyone knows "Sklansky's groups". Everyone knows etc.

The poker books and the online forums don't possess esoteric knowledge. Chances are that 80% of the table has read a good amount of poker literature. People make choices based on whatever they choose to make their choices on. They know what you know. They know the Top 10-20 hands, and the odds of this and that, and etc.

I just wanna know:

1.) "How do people know that you're a tight player?"

and

2.) "Why do people expect it to matter?"

I can't answer these. Please, someone- answer these questions for me.

Funny semi related story:

I was playing 2 SnGs at once last night. Playing the exact same way, catching about the same cards. At one "Someone finally call bonch, he bluffs every time" At the other "Wow, bonchkid only plays AA KK QQ why do you guys call his raises?"

People really dont pay that much attention.

Vense,
I'm not talking about myself or you watching others. It's Player A's expectation that everyone is closely observing Player A and because Player A is a tight player, their bets/raises should be respected that I'm talking about. I watch other players, but I don't give many players the respect that they're watching me too closely unless i have reason to believe that they are.

My initial post might've been a little confusing because it was a rant.

Well i think table image exists.

If you are complaining about those who are using it as an excuse for criticising someones call then i agree. But every who complains sucks in the 1st place so my answer to them is.. "Whatever.."

The simple answer to this, I was not getting any action as comapred to other players when I raised. While this allowed me to pick up a couple pots, mainly it was due to a drought of cards. ANd when I did get a hand, I got little action since others (surprisingly) realized they needed slightly better starting hands to play against me. Apparently I ended up at a intelligent table. I got AA 8 times that night, only got called on a standard preflop raise once, twice reraising a previous raise with them folding.

No, they shouldn't fear me, but they should know to play better cards, and last night, they did. Somewhat to my loss. USually most low limit tables will never see this, but they did.

Originally Posted by Marm

The simple answer to this, I was not getting any action as comapred to other players when I raised. While this allowed me to pick up a couple pots, mainly it was due to a drought of cards. ANd when I did get a hand, I got little action since others (surprisingly) realized they needed slightly better starting hands to play against me. Apparently I ended up at a intelligent table. I got AA 8 times that night, only got called on a standard preflop raise once, twice reraising a previous raise with them folding.

... or everyone had shit and I mean SHIT when you caught those cards.

Originally Posted by Marm

No, they shouldn't fear me, but they should know to play better cards, and last night, they did. Somewhat to my loss. USually most low limit tables will never see this, but they did.

If you get what you seem to want in the first part of your post (players acknowledging you play [which you see as play that should be respected])- you lose.

If you get what you got in this second part (your opponents' playing well)- you lose.

Vense hit the nail on the head. If you're criticizing others to explain why you're the one that lost the pot, you really should examine yourself and figure out what the real problem is.

Its not how you play, its how you're image is.