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01-03-2006, 07:49 PM
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change my title babo
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Why did you check the turn?
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01-03-2006, 07:58 PM
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Mike McDermott
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maybe a trap. you should lead out incase he cheks behind though.
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01-03-2006, 08:12 PM
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change my title babo
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"Trapping" in a pot thats bigger tahn your stack is stupid without the absolute nuts.
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01-04-2006, 04:46 AM
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Just because you hold AA doesn't give the right to win the pot. Holding on to these hands and playing them on the turn and river like you should pre flop can cost you dear.
The guy could have been holding 88 or any other #2s (still weak but a possibility). Or was reading you as stealing the blinds and calling to see what happened if you missed the flop and just got lucky.
After the flop, you had tried to bet the guy out of the hand twice already, and he was still coming at you. Had he missed the flop with 7-2 I doubt you would have had a call.
After the turn I think a call would have been in order instead of the all in (at least leaving you some chips to bandage your wounds with).
You gotta assume that the guy woulda all in after the river and you would have to conclude you no longer had the best hand and throw away, bowing to a better hand or superior power play. If he checks you get a free look and walk away knowing you made the right play.
You can't win a tourney with no chips.
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01-04-2006, 04:56 AM
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I totally disagree with the above post. ^^^^^^
Sometimes you have to make assumptions otherwise you will only ever play the nuts and will win nothing. My assumption here would have been that the guy also has a high pair JJ QQ or KK maybe even 1010.
The only thing I would have done different would be to raise more preflop, early in the game this is a dillema i know because you don't want to scare anyone off, but at these stakes all in would probably get one caller. I packed in with the STT on Tribeca because I found the variance far worst than in cash games.
My advice: Either force the guy to call with half his stack preflop or be prepared to fold the AA - I've called in this type of position a million times, and in 99% of these situations I knew I was beat before the showdown. You need to get used to folding big hands when it doesn't feel right, expect the unexpected and all that. Its a shame ehis happened so early in the game because you have no read on the guy, he probably limped every hand and folded to a flop bet, then got lucky against you.
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01-04-2006, 02:43 PM
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Mike McDermott
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the jester, posting advice filled with B.S is not good. absinth, do not listen to the dude 2 posts above this.
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01-04-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by G_The_Jester
Just because you hold AA doesn't give the right to win the pot. Holding on to these hands and playing them on the turn and river like you should pre flop can cost you dear.
The guy could have been holding 88 or any other #2s (still weak but a possibility). Or was reading you as stealing the blinds and calling to see what happened if you missed the flop and just got lucky.
After the flop, you had tried to bet the guy out of the hand twice already, and he was still coming at you. Had he missed the flop with 7-2 I doubt you would have had a call.
After the turn I think a call would have been in order instead of the all in (at least leaving you some chips to bandage your wounds with).
You gotta assume that the guy woulda all in after the river and you would have to conclude you no longer had the best hand and throw away, bowing to a better hand or superior power play. If he checks you get a free look and walk away knowing you made the right play.
You can't win a tourney with no chips.
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Just read my signature...
KJ
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Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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01-04-2006, 08:36 PM
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lol... I agree with whomever said the flop bet was too large. Give bad hands some odds to call ya down... anyone with a good hand is going to get the money in eventually anyway!
If you keep pots small, things like this aren't a disaster... which is why I bet smaller then I used to. If I'd seen you do this with AA though I could justify playing literally ANY TWO CARDS against you if you made a big raise... because I know all the money is going in if I hit! I highly doubt that your opponent was thinking that though... he just didn't feel like folding (or wanted a good story out of his .50 tourney lol).
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01-05-2006, 07:14 PM
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Yeah to but to fair in all ways, in a decent tourny with decent players do you actully think anyone would call with a 2? Even with A2 I fold 88% of the time so when 22 came on the flop I assumed that he was not carrying a 2 although was a mistake where it was a cheap SnG..
Do you actully think I would have won this hand at a decent tourny or could some1 still have a 2?
The reason I bet so much after the flop was becuase of the simple fact of the 2's and if I got a call I figred the 2 was there, but it's to hard to read somebody in such small limit SnG's unfortunitly is all I can afford atm.
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01-05-2006, 08:01 PM
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Mike McDermott
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only fools call with A2, so your fine.
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