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01-03-2006, 07:17 AM
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Someone said that if you go all in on the turn he won't call, but dont you want him to call with K3? He has 5 outs. If you were to go all in you would be delighted if he called and turned that hand over.
Surely after your smallish raise has been called on the flop you know he has something. Someone betting out, then calling a raise on that board I could put them on either a spade flush or straight draw, and would make them pay with about a 2/3 to pot sized bet on the turn.
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01-03-2006, 07:32 AM
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you should've just folded it preflop.
your playing 4 handed. next one out is the bubble boy. and at that point you had more than double the short stack.
stupid play in my opinion. you should've never been involved in the hand.
you should've waited, and made the short stack make his move b/c he would be blinded out well before the rest of you 3.
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01-03-2006, 07:42 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^ my sentiments, exactly.
But, hey, that's poker.
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01-03-2006, 07:52 AM
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^^^^^^ WEAK!
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01-03-2006, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WotaWaster
Someone said that if you go all in on the turn he won't call, but dont you want him to call with K3? He has 5 outs. If you were to go all in you would be delighted if he called and turned that hand over.
Surely after your smallish raise has been called on the flop you know he has something. Someone betting out, then calling a raise on that board I could put them on either a spade flush or straight draw, and would make them pay with about a 2/3 to pot sized bet on the turn.
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He just didnt bet the turn enough, the flop play is fine perhaps a slightly bigger bet though to get more chips in the pot. The reason I say go all in on that turn is that there are two possible flush draws on the board and a high card in a King... It could be likely if he had held an ace that hes calling you...or something along those lines.
You really need to take the pot down before something like trips or another 9 drops on the river. Bigger preflop raise especially if your trying a steal... show strength through the whole hand make him think youve got it good. Especially when you have!
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01-03-2006, 09:35 AM
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Raise PF, and I don't see how you can call on the river there.
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01-03-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Marm
78s will usually be the best hand PF 4 handed.
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No it won't. It is only 8 high. 78s is multiway hand, it doesnt have any heads-up strenght unless the stacks are deep.
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01-03-2006, 10:29 AM
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I don't like raising here, because the short stack is liable to push, and I really don't want to be forced to call with 87s.
Limping is ok - folding is ok, I would want more high-card strenght before I push the short stack around. I think you need to push that flop pretty hard. two pair is vulnerable, and the board has straight and flush draws.
You can't push on the river, just call.
Last edited by Beavis68; 01-03-2006 at 10:32 AM.
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01-03-2006, 10:36 AM
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You're really calling the river all-in Beav? He'd still have 1515 left, which is 600 more than the low stack. I think he is too easily beaten on the river to call. The play of the other guy would suggest a 3. Honestly, who knows what this guy could have from his play. The river all-in is a substantial bet.
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01-03-2006, 11:08 AM
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Yikes, I thought he had raised all-in, I check behind on that river, there isnt much you beat that will call you.
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