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  1. 01-02-2006 #1
    Blur86
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    Default Scarey Card...for us both.

    Not much info on the guy as I had just been moved from another table, but he had a decent stack, so he must be good (just kidding).

    Would you have pushed after he checked to me on the river? I put him on two high cards, possible high pocket pair, after he check-bet-called me on the turn I figured he is very likely to have a good pocket pair afraid I called a 4x bb preflop bet with A5. I'm always afraid to use scare cards, not because I play afraid to bust to a good call, but I play afraid to bust to a bad call where people refuse to lay down their good preflop hands but can't fold KK or QQ with an ace on the board with someone showing strength (I'm not saying if I pushed hard and he called it would be a bad call of course).

    PokerStars Game #3510533511: Tournament #17410908, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/01/02 - 13:47:38 (ET)
    Table '17410908 59' Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: troop72 (4510 in chips)
    Seat 2: ^KARABEAR^ (3415 in chips)
    Seat 3: gilmattbert (6950 in chips)
    Seat 4: Buck2079 (13303 in chips)
    Seat 5: BooYa86 (7390 in chips)
    Seat 6: ivGOTtheNUTS (9180 in chips)
    Seat 7: Blur86 (8395 in chips)
    Seat 8: JTriverrat (4715 in chips)
    Seat 9: sevensfull77 (2622 in chips)
    JTriverrat: posts small blind 25
    sevensfull77: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Blur86 [JavaScript Jh]
    troop72: calls 50
    ^KARABEAR^: folds
    gilmattbert: folds
    Buck2079: folds
    BooYa86: raises 150 to 200
    ivGOTtheNUTS: folds
    Blur86: calls 200
    JTriverrat: folds
    sevensfull77: folds
    troop72: calls 150
    *** FLOP *** [7s 5c 5h]
    troop72: checks
    BooYa86: bets 300
    Blur86: raises 600 to 900
    troop72: folds
    BooYa86: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [7s 5c 5h] [6s]
    BooYa86: checks
    Blur86: bets 1200
    BooYa86: calls 1200
    *** RIVER *** [7s 5c 5h 6s] [Ac]
    BooYa86: checks
    Blur86: checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    BooYa86: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
    Blur86: shows [JavaScript Jh] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
    BooYa86 collected 4875 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4875 | Rake 0
    Board [7s 5c 5h 6s Ac]
    Seat 1: troop72 folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: ^KARABEAR^ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: gilmattbert folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Buck2079 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: BooYa86 showed [Kc Kd] and won (4875) with two pair, Kings and Fives
    Seat 6: ivGOTtheNUTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Blur86 (button) showed [JavaScript Jh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives
    Seat 8: JTriverrat (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: sevensfull77 (big blind) folded before Flop



    edit: sorry, I'll use the bison converter next time, I tried editing this but it comes out really funny.
    Last edited by Blur86; 01-02-2006 at 11:01 AM.
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  2. 01-02-2006 #2
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    What was the buy-in?

    He knows you haven't got an ace, reraise and call on the flop screams overpair and unless you have aces he knows he has you beat. Your bet on the turn confirms you are not playing Ax (other than perhaps A7).

    I can see the temptation to try and win it when the Ace hits but you are going to get called there by KK a lot more often than you are going to win the pot. More importantly a win is not going to significantly improve your chance of making the money but a loss if he calls could either cripple you or end your chances. There are definately circumstances where a scary river can help take down a pot (though I prefer a scary turn) this doesn't seem to be one of them.

    I think you played it well, more often than not and particularly this early in a tourney I'm playing it the way you did to be safe.
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    O yes and before Marm gets here - USE BISONS HAND CONVERTOR
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  4. 01-02-2006 #4
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    buy-in is 22 dollar deep stack.

    PS, i completely screwed up the hand text with that converter, im trying to fix it by finding the original text
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  5. 01-02-2006 #5
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    Thanks, the other way to do it is just put colons : in front of the cards. You also have to make any letters like J K Q A into lower case, but it's pretty straightforward.

    I still think you played it well
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