PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t2930)
MP1 (t2890)
MP2 (t280)
MP3 (t1470)
Hero (t1400)
Button (t1830)
SB (t1510)
BB (t1110)
UTG (t110)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
4 folds, MP3 raises to t80, Hero raises to t200, 3 folds, MP3 calls t120.

Flop: (t430) , , (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets t300, MP3 calls t300.

Turn: (t1030) (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1030) (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1030

Results in white below:
MP3 has As Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1030.

Right when the first raise came I was only a tad concerned about that sick reality of having Kings run into Aces, had he re-raised PF, I would have had to call. But the hand played itself out so poorly I lost a lot less than I should of....

weak.
bet river.

Originally Posted by gder03

weak.
bet river.

Yeah, and watch another idiot river check-rase me with A-Q? What would be the point honestly? I was called on a re-raise, check-called on a flop of Q-Q-x. I don't know the player, what is the point of firing off chips in that situation? I'm not gonna play KK like that in every situation, but c'mon, that's either a trap or someone making a stupid call. And in the early stages of a tournament, there's no need to mess around like that. Weak? Probably.... but what would be the point?

Yeah its only a pair of kings, which is only the second best starting hand.
I would fold and wait for a better spot.

Seriously though, I'm all in on the turn.
I can be a little tight sometimes with AA, you raised preflop, you bet the flop, you bet the turn and there are two queens on board? only a fish would call you! ( unless he had a queen ).

Originally Posted by Gryff

Yeah its only a pair of kings, which is only the second best starting hand.
I would fold and wait for a better spot.

Seriously though, I'm all in on the turn.
I can be a little tight sometimes with AA, you raised preflop, you bet the flop, you bet the turn and there are two queens on board? only a fish would call you! ( unless he had a queen ).

Oh come, there's no way anyone anymore is folding Aces. And put yourself in his shoes? Why would I bet trip queens in that spot? No matter what I bet, his process is going to be "I have aces, hooray!", he'll think his hand is good and I go broke. No one in these 10 dollar minefields on Stars has the discipline to throw that hand away. So no matter the logic of this forum is that "If you have Kings, you HAVE THE BEST HAND NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT YOU FEEL AT THE TABLE! GRRRRRRRRR!".

I've always had a good feeling of when an opponent is weak or when he's trying to trap me, and I KNOW, that if I'm called on this flop that there's a possibility he's full with the 6s, he has AA or AQ, or maybe even sicker QQ (which in my mind was only a micro possibility, because I know Lee Jones would fuck with me that way). What could you POSSIBLY be check/calling in that situation? A GOOD HAND! I wasn't afraid of busting out, I just didn't see the point of firing off my chips "because I have KINGS!!!!!! YAYYYYY!!!".

Put yourself in my situation and use some more extreme thought. Let's say this player did indeed have AQ or KQ, QJ (ugh, no...), or QQ, which was a range that I thought of. If you have a big hand in this situation it plays out like this. You have this, and the player re-raises you PF, meaning I'm telling you I have some thing pretty damn good. The flop comes Q-Q-x, you've literally pissed yourself in joy. You check because your understand your opponent might want to see where he's at with his big hand. So, you check/call. Turn is a J, and you decide if he fires once, he may fire again, and I'll trap him for all of his chips because I probably have the best hand in this situation. If I'm him and perceive my opponent as being aggressive (which by a re-raise PF, would say probably), if he checks behind me I can maybe throw him off by checking the river. He'll look at the river check and say "He called me on a flop of QQ6", and didn't bet on the turn, and checked the river, so I can probably take the pot if I fire a bet in this spot. There's a hell of a lot more than what goes on in the hand than what your cards are, Gryff. And since I don't understand my opponent and his play very well in these tournaments, it's best to make your decisions as easy as possible to prevent you from busting out of a tournament.

My style has always been play the river cautiously, because if you know they could be chasing you down with anything and they "love to see that river card", why go crazy at that point? Too often I'm seeing players trying to trap others on the river, and it's a stupid bogus play of which I can only think you should do it against complete super-aggressive players who will perceive any check as weakness. I play every hand in the way it's given to me, and I thought I was being trapped. Go ahead and call that weak, I don't really care, I only posted this hand because I was more baffled by how strangely my opponent played this. Trapping me PF, and then essentially trapping himself when all the cards were laid out.

he never bet them once, you can make him fold them.

Don't see why you aren't all-in on the turn here.... but i guess checking it down is your only other option....