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12-28-2005, 11:38 PM
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drawing in .5/.10 games forgive all the questions =D
in .5/.10 games when i'm the leader or even if i limp-in to the flop and i'm on a draw (let's say open ended) if someone calls ahead of me. i kno i'm *supposed* to bet out regardless since i was the leader comming in. But i kno they don't have the chance for a straight and now i have to fold because obviously the call was so small that the pot odds are totally against my draw's odds! Do i raise it up to match my hand odds (obviously depending on the player)? or do i fold (which i usually do =\).
ANd it seems i'm the only one betting alot when it comes to these .5/.10 games others are so rigid with JUST .10 or .20's(even with good cards) i bet relative to the pot itself, like 1/2 the pot or 3/4 the pot etc. ANd it just makes me look MORE aggressive than i actually am (...after having read SS2 i sorta am now =|)..
Help...
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12-29-2005, 04:47 AM
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umm.. dude.. i cant understand a word u just said.. u need to rephrase it, or post some examples
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12-29-2005, 04:50 AM
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And some puctuation and captializaion would be nice (and is it REALLY that much hader to key the "w" in "know"?).
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12-29-2005, 06:55 AM
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umm.. dude.. i cant understand a word u just said.. u need to rephrase it, or post some examples
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Yeah I read it a few times and still can't male heads or tails of it.
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12-29-2005, 08:02 AM
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Translation: He wants to know whether or not, to always bet out after the flop when he was the preflop raiser, regardless of whether he hits or not (As Doyle advocates in SS2).
My answer: my Poker Tracker stats say that after I raise preflop, I check or call a bet about 20% of the time. About 80% of the time, I'm betting out, or raising an earlier bet, and a small percentage of the time, I check-raise.
It depends on your posisition after the flop. If you are first to act, with a hand that missed completely, I would bet into a player only if I know they are most likely to pass if they missed their hand.
If I am last to act, against a fairly passive player who checks the flop, I will bet out 90% of the time. Usually I'll bet the pot, or 2/3 the pot. If the player calls, and my hand continues to go unimproved, I will just check it down when checked to me, and will fold bets from the player.
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12-29-2005, 01:07 PM
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atleast someone got it =D
aiight that's what i thought as well so feel better now. Now i can feel more confident when i make these plays that i have some reassurance.
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12-29-2005, 01:42 PM
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astroboiii, the first thing to consider is the odds of your bet making money. As Harrington points out, if you bet half the pot here, you will make a profit as long as your opponent(s) folds 33% of the time or better.
Against one opponent, if his hand wasn't good enough to reraise you (a big pair) he's only going to hit the flop 1/3 of the time himself. I would make a continuation bet against one opponent nearly every single time... unless we had a history of a lot of hands played vs one another, and he was a tricky/aggressive player who has snapped off a number of my bluffs.
Against more then one opponent, the odds of them ALL not having enough to at least call your bet go down. With 3 opponents, playing NL, I do not think that your odds of that bluff being profitable are any good anymore. With 2 opponents, I would bluff at them most of the time on poor boards. With 3, I usually wouldn't bluff very often at all.
On the flip side, if I'm playing against a weak calling station... I don't bluff very often at THEM either.
Of course, there's the big problem of what value you lose from the pot if you DONT bet and your opponents use this opportunity to bluff (if you're out of position)... but if you change your play up with check-raises occasionally when you have a big hand, that shouldn't be TOO much of a problem.
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12-29-2005, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Girevik
And some puctuation and captializaion would be nice (and is it REALLY that much hader to key the "w" in "know"?).
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Dont be rude, I bet 10$ he's one of my ''Québecois'' mate!
Probably english is not his 1st laguage just as me...
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12-29-2005, 07:03 PM
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change my title babo
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Originally Posted by KINGJACK
Dont be rude, I bet 10$ he's one of my ''Québecois'' mate!
Probably english is not his 1st laguage just as me...
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They dont have sentences in French?
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12-29-2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by astroboiii
in .5/.10 games when i'm the leader or even if i limp-in to the flop and i'm on a draw (let's say open ended) if someone calls ahead of me. i kno i'm *supposed* to bet out regardless since i was the leader comming in. But i kno they don't have the chance for a straight and now i have to fold because obviously the call was so small that the pot odds are totally against my draw's odds! Do i raise it up to match my hand odds (obviously depending on the player)? or do i fold (which i usually do =\).
ANd it seems i'm the only one betting alot when it comes to these .5/.10 games others are so rigid with JUST .10 or .20's(even with good cards) i bet relative to the pot itself, like 1/2 the pot or 3/4 the pot etc. ANd it just makes me look MORE aggressive than i actually am (...after having read SS2 i sorta am now =|)..
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The hell is this? Not only is it jibberish, I can't even understand the poker aspect of it?
something about odds. limping and such.
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