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12-21-2005, 10:06 AM
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Your thoughts, Volume 2.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
SB ($3.15)
BB ($6.70)
UTG ($4.05)
UTG+1 ($7.05)
Hero ($12.55)
MP2 ($13.15)
CO ($6.70)
Button ($7.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with  ,  .
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, MP2 raises to $1, 4 folds, UTG raises to $4.05, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, MP2 calls $3.05.
Flop: ($8.85)  ,  , (2 players)
Turn: ($8.85) (2 players)
River: ($8.85) (2 players)
Final Pot: $8.85
Results in white below:
UTG has 5c 5d (two pair, jacks and fives).
MP2 has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins $8.85.
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12-21-2005, 10:40 AM
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AK is player depent, but against a reraise and an all-in, the players would have to be terrible to make the call.
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12-21-2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Beavis68
AK is player depent, but against a reraise and an all-in, the players would have to be terrible to make the call.
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6 months ago I would of made that call..... Now im thinking its good to fold... any maths freaks got some percentages? 
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12-21-2005, 11:06 AM
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i might have called UTG with his $4 all in, but with another player behind you who has you covered folding was the best course of action...with that sort of preflop action you can usually be fairly sure your up against either AA or KK...
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12-21-2005, 11:07 AM
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Math is dependant on what hands you put them on.
Against any resonable range of hands you are between 2:1 and 3:1 dog for the whole pot.
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12-21-2005, 11:17 AM
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I MAY have called the all-in, depending on how tight the player was. I don't think I'd call the two raises, though. Good fold.
My other thought that UTG is a freaking idiot - pushing with 55 with two raises behind him?
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12-21-2005, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beavis68
Math is dependant on what hands you put them on.
Against any resonable range of hands you are between 2:1 and 3:1 dog for the whole pot.
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and if my math is correct, Hero was facing a pot of $5.80 with a call of $3.55 only giving him 1.63:1 odds. Only way to call this is with implied odds which you'll not get from UTG since he's all-in but may get from MP2 (who still has $9.10). But from a practical point of view, calling this after a re-raise and then an all-in you have to fold. Besides you're only in for 50 cents at this point and not pot committed. Good fold.
I had to lay down pocket A-A yester day to a simular idiot who first just called my pr raise along with the Button. After he capped my 3x bet (Limit HE) on the flopp with 2-6-6 on board, I folded but the Button continued to sd. 2-6-6-5-3 and the idiot shows 7-7 while the button (an even bigger idiot) showed 3-3 for a full house. If I had any hair, I'd pull it out!! :mad:
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12-21-2005, 02:19 PM
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easy fold. you cannot call this with the dude behin you (who raise you .5) still acting. its akmost certain hell re raise or call makeing it a bigaas pot 3 way with AK.
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12-21-2005, 08:03 PM
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no way am i calling this.. this is an easy fold imo.. pot has been min re-raised, then re-raised again by UTG who limped.. most people in early who limp then re-raise = pocket kings or aces... also MP2's play here with the min re-raise, shows that he is likely to be holding aces or kings... laying down AK here is an easy fold... for me at least..
however, if UTG folded instead of re-raising to 4.05.. then i would considering calling the min raise, just to see if i can flop a A.. if i dont flop ace, then its a easy check-fold.
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12-22-2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Girevik
I MAY have called the all-in, depending on how tight the player was. I don't think I'd call the two raises, though. Good fold.
My other thought that UTG is a freaking idiot - pushing with 55 with two raises behind him?
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Well the guy next to act after me said that if I had gone all in he would of folded... but I highly doubt hes folding KK with 2 all ins in the pot....
Im happy with this fold - Just checking it was the right move.
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