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Old 12-18-2005, 09:40 AM
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Default Low M play after bad beat...critique?

I suffered a bad beat in this 1st hand posted below and was basically crippled. I ended up in 4th place but think I played this low M situation very well. i know this is a long and tedious post, but wanted to hear your thoughts. Any mistakes here? Also, I figured that if the consensus is that I played this ok, it may help some of the newbies out there.


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MP (t4390)
CO (t2300)
Button (t2745)
SB (t1400)
Hero (t1720)
UTG (t945)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to t400, SB calls t300.

Flop: (t800) , , (2 players)
SB bets t1000 (All-In), Hero calls t1000.

Turn: (t2800) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2800) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2800

Results in white below:
SB has 5d Ad (straight, five high).
Hero has Jc Js (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: SB wins t2800.




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

UTG (t4390)
MP (t2300)
CO (t2745)
Button (t2800)
Hero (t320)
BB (t945)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, MP raises to t400, 4 folds.

Final Pot: t550

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP wins t550.




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BB (t4390)
UTG (t2450)
MP (t2745)
CO (t2800)
Hero (t270)
SB (t845)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
5 folds.

Final Pot: t150

Results in white below:
No showdown. BB wins t150.



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SB (t4440)
BB (t2450)
UTG (t2745)
MP (t2800)
Hero (t270)
Button (t795)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, MP calls t100, Hero raises to t270, 2 folds, BB calls t170, MP folds.

Flop: (t690) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t690) (2 players)

River: (t690) (2 players)

Final Pot: t690

Results in white below:
BB has 9s 2c (one pair, tens).
Hero has Ac Qc (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t690.




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Button (t4390)
SB (t2180)
BB (t2745)
UTG (t2700)
Hero (t690)
CO (t795)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
2 folds, CO raises to t795, 1 fold, SB calls t745, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1690) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t1690) (2 players)

River: (t1690) (2 players)

Final Pot: t1690

Results in white below:
SB has Tc Ah (straight, ace high).
CO has 6h Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins t1690.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

MP (t4390)
Button (t3075)
SB (t2645)
BB (t2700)
Hero (t690)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
2 folds, Button raises to t400, 1 fold, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t850) , , (2 players)
BB checks, Button bets t500, BB folds.

Final Pot: t1350

Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins t1350.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

UTG (t4390)
MP (t3525)
Button (t2595)
SB (t2300)
Hero (t690)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, MP raises to t400, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t550

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP wins t550.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

SB (t3990)
BB (t3675)
UTG (t3045)
MP (t2250)
Hero (t540)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
2 folds, Hero raises to t540, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t690

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins t690.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

Button (t3940)
SB (t3575)
BB (t3045)
UTG (t2250)
Hero (t690)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to t690, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t840

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins t840.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) converter

MP (t3940)
Button (t3525)
SB (t2945)
BB (t2250)
Hero (t840)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
1 fold, MP raises to t600, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t825

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP wins t825.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) converter

UTG (t4165)
MP (t3525)
Button (t2870)
SB (t2100)
Hero (t840)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
4 folds.

Final Pot: t225

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins t225.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) converter

BB (t4165)
UTG (t3525)
MP (t2870)
Button (t2025)
Hero (t915)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG raises to t450, 4 folds.

Final Pot: t675

Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG wins t675.



Heres where my original dickhead gets bounced..........

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SB (t4015)
BB (t3750)
UTG (t2870)
MP (t2025)
Hero (t840)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, MP raises to t450, 1 fold, SB raises to t2100, 1 fold, MP calls t1575 (All-In).

Flop: (t4275) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t4275) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4275) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4275

Results in white below:
SB has 5s 5c (three of a kind, fives).
MP has 9c Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins t4275.


And here is where I bite the dust:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) converter

Button (t6190)
SB (t3600)
BB (t2870)
Hero (t840)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to t840, Button raises to t2100, 2 folds.

Flop: (t3165) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t3165) (2 players)

River: (t3165) (2 players)

Final Pot: t3165

Results in white below:
Hero has 2c Ac (one pair, fives).
Button has 6c 6d (two pair, sixes and fives).
Outcome: Button wins t3165.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:51 AM
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You played it the way you're supposed to... aggressive bets when you're first in, but only calling other people's bets with real hands (which you didn't do at all).

Good play. I have some sequences that were pretty good, but hollywood doesn't save tourney hand histories unless you grab them individually at the time.
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:45 AM
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i would have thought about raising J7s when folded to on the button.

this depends on the other players standards for calling an all-in from a short stack, they are prob a bit too loose tho (by reading the results)
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:58 PM
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Bobby,

That was the one hand I second guessed myself. My thinking was that the BB might think I was steaming and would have called me with anything over a jack. Since I had a few more hands until the blinds were on me I decided to wait.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:05 PM
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Yeah, a problem with these kind of things is if you start to get TOO in control, you start getting calls you don't want. Poor calls, but still not profitable ones.

Like when I steal outright, then pick up A5 and steal, then pick up AT... I get called all the time on a third straight bet, and would lay down a LOT of hands that would normally be stealing hands. It's always nice when you pick up the monster the third time though
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techincal question Ant, did you paste each hand individually or dump the hole HH text of 10+ hands in BHC and it spit that out? That would be a nice feature to have if it did that......
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:15 PM
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one of the only times i play J7s in this game is when all fold to me on the button.
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I'm all in with J7s. I don't know the %'s off hand, but it's got to be favored over a random hand. SB can't afford to call you without a real hand - and he's sandwiched between you and the BB who has him covered.

Frankly, with your stack, I'm looking to get called and double up. I'll take AK vs. J7s anyday in that situation.

If you do double up, I stop pushing all in and just raise 2.5x the BB.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:00 PM
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Sorry...been real busy and havent had chance to check in.......

Marm, I did them one at a time. Quite tedious. It would be great if you could do it all in one shot though.

Jason: I know I should have pushed there, I was thinking too much and didnt want a call.....was looking to scoop a few blinds and felt it was to soon after my bad beat...my strategy almost worked.....when i flopped the flush draw on final hand I almost pissed my pants. One more card and I am making the money.
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