What do you think this guy had?

**Gryff** · 12-13-2005

I was basically planning on raising the flop no matter what, most of the table was very weak, based on the information presented, what do you think Mr UTG had?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

UTG (t1590)
MP1 (t1640)
MP2 (t1578)
CO (t1292)
Hero (t2235)
SB (t1245)
BB (t3920)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

,

.
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, MP2 calls t50, CO calls t50, Hero raises to t300, 2 folds, UTG calls t250, MP2 calls t250, CO folds.

Flop: (t975)

,

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t1935 (All-In), UTG calls t1290 (All-In), MP2 folds.

Turn: (t4200)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t4200)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t4200

**Girevik** · 12-13-2005

Could be about anything - an overpair or something like A7 would be likely. Since your asking I'm guessing it's something we wouldn't expect.

I think a better question is why are you raising 52s with 3 limpers already in the pot?

**PowerfulRog** · 12-13-2005

Why are you raising 52s?

Anyway, I guess A7, although pretty much anything is possible. You have really no information on him.

Why are you pushing this anyway?

Blinds are relatively small and you have a decent stack, so you don't need to make a move.

**Marm** · 12-13-2005

If you plan on raising this hand, you should have raised it more.... just to try and scare people off with the mightyness of the 53 sooted.

Doesn't matter what he had, you made the worst plays.....

Even if this guy flips over 22 or 46 or AA, your was the worst play. I know you thinkyou can dominate this table, but if you want to play this hand, you limp behind the three others, wait for this flop, then raise it. Raising this in an opened pot PF is just retarded.

**Beavis68** · 12-13-2005

He had Jack high.

that all in was terrible.

half pot bet would have done the same thing.

**Irexes** · 12-13-2005

Horrible stuff.

I'll guess 66 though anyone of a 2 dozen hands could have you beat and if I'd seen you pull a similar stunt I'd be calling your allin with AJ or better.

**Beavis68** · 12-13-2005

Originally Posted by Beavis68

half pot bet would have done the same thing.

Well, actually not, because you wouldnt have gone broke with a half pot bet.

**BwayJoe** · 12-13-2005

a bigger stack at the end of this hand, but then again maybe not.

It's true that he could have had a lot of stuff. could have been a big pair, but he would have been a fool to check a big pocket pair with the board pair. With the board pair, in fact, I would have thought it ill advised to check a set like A7 or K7, that's just asking to get outdrawn when your opponent makes his boat. If I had any of that stuff, I'd want to take the pot right there at the flop. The only thing that makes sense to check is a flush draw, probably the nut flush draw. Why would he call with just the draw? With your aggression he figures you don't have anything better than a set. figuring him self to be no worse than 2 to 1, Your all in gives him the right price to call. My guess is he had Ad Xd and X is something low.

Furthermore, my guess is that he didn't make his flush or a pair and you won the pot. Truth is he had many more outs than he thought and you dodged a lot of bullets if you won.

All that said, It goes without saying that your preflop raise was way out of line, and that you compounded your mistake by going all in which rather than running him out of the pot, gave him all the more reason to call you. Half pot to pot sized bet wouldn't have given him odds to call.

**gder03** · 12-13-2005

this is so poorly played. i bet he called you with A9 off suit, or A3 etc... 1st its not vary smart raising with 52 just b/c they "looked weak", 2nd, you hit a flop and over bet it. online this is a tell to me. Flop comes two of the same card (like in this case), and the dealer bets = he dosnt have the trips. That is why they called you down with like Ax, or QT, or Jk etc...

edit: the tell dosnt mean much hear b/c ppl cant re bluff you. but they can call you with a shitty hand knowing you dont have the 7.

**Beavis68** · 12-13-2005

I don't mind the PF raise, but you have to figure it is going to work a goodly percentage of the time.

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