PokerStars Game #3284162057: Tournament #16259359, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/12/09 - 11:14:11 (ET)
Table '16259359 2' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ngutsnglory (3425 in chips)
Seat 2: illness627 (5505 in chips)
Seat 3: kebo1 (1090 in chips)
Seat 4: wvufan05 (7450 in chips)
Seat 7: Dizzy Fuzz (3505 in chips)
Seat 8: Robber76 (6025 in chips)
ngutsnglory: posts the ante 25
illness627: posts the ante 25
kebo1: posts the ante 25
wvufan05: posts the ante 25
Dizzy Fuzz: posts the ante 25
Robber76: posts the ante 25
wvufan05: posts small blind 200
Dizzy Fuzz: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dizzy Fuzz [Jh JavaScript]
Robber76: raises 800 to 1200
ngutsnglory: folds
illness627: folds
kebo1: folds
wvufan05: folds
Dizzy Fuzz said, "you got something?"
Dizzy Fuzz: raises 2280 to 3480 and is all-in
Robber76: calls 2280
*** FLOP *** [4h Th Ac]
Dizzy Fuzz said, "ffs"
*** TURN *** [4h Th Ac] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [4h Th Ac 2s] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dizzy Fuzz: shows [Jh JavaScript] (a pair of Jacks)
Robber76: shows [Ad 8h] (a pair of Aces)
Robber76 collected 7310 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7310 | Rake 0
Board [4h Th Ac 2s 5c]
Seat 1: ngutsnglory folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: illness627 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kebo1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wvufan05 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Dizzy Fuzz (big blind) showed [Jh JavaScript] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 8: Robber76 showed [Ad 8h] and won (7310) with a pair of Aces


Well my luck has turned on me, and I probably shouldnt of pushed with Jacks at that moment but with over 700 already in the pot and me knowing that he had been playing so loose the whole Tournament it felt right to push.

You need to set up camp over at the river rats forum. Your posts are just bad beats. If someone wants to call with A8, be happy, because you'll usually make money

I know I should pitch a tent over there at the moment - wonder if a kind mod could move this...

I wouldnt call this a bad beat. The table is 6 handed and he has A6 off. I probably dont make this move from UTG, but he is the big stack and is making an attempt to steal the blinds and he does have an ace.

I think you have to assume he has an ace, or a PP. You can either call and see the flop (knowing you will fold if an ace hits) or do what you did and push all in.

This is tough, but I cant call it a bad beat.

Actually I think the big stack makes a horrid play by calling with A6. He's a 70/30 underdog to any pair 66 or above, and worse against any big ace (75/25).

He's gettint 2.3:1 on his money with the call, which is just at break even with the pairs (but not against the bigger aces). I think risking a huge amount more with A6 off at just break even odds is a pretty bad play.

If you want to steal the blinds with A6, fine, just lay it down if you encounter any serious resistance (like someone going all in for 3 times your raise).

Jason,


I absolutely agree he should have folded. I meant his PF steal atempt was fine.

I just dont call any ol loss a bad beat. When your beaten from the flop, how bad a beat can it really be?

Originally Posted by Antneye

Jason,


I absolutely agree he should have folded. I meant his PF steal atempt was fine.

I just dont call any ol loss a bad beat. When your beaten from the flop, how bad a beat can it really be?

Its a bad beat in the sense that he made the right play, got called by a worse hand, and still loss. And there's not much point in posting those kinds of threads repeatedly in here, there's a separate forum for those hands...that was my point :P

Originally Posted by traz

Its a bad beat in the sense that he made the right play, got called by a worse hand, and still loss. And there's not much point in posting those kinds of threads repeatedly in here, there's a separate forum for those hands...that was my point :P

Alright...

I was just venting anger - since this guy had been making calls such as this one and worse all day, then again - If i had his stack size I would of made the same call most likely.