PokerStars Game #3283669599: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/12/09 - 09:10:02 (ET)
Table 'Edburga III' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dizzy Fuzz ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Mebo ($1.67 in chips)
Seat 3: Kluengelkerl ($5.12 in chips)
Seat 4: Scrubbo ($5.24 in chips)
Seat 5: JAY 33333 ($0.96 in chips)
Seat 6: GrapeSoda111 ($5.29 in chips)
Seat 7: blownboo ($6.86 in chips)
Seat 8: DwaalLicht ($5.57 in chips)
Seat 9: ezmonee ($2.78 in chips)
DwaalLicht: posts small blind $0.01
ezmonee: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dizzy Fuzz [Ks Kh]
Dizzy Fuzz: raises $0.24 to $0.26
Mebo: folds
Kluengelkerl: folds
Scrubbo: raises $4.98 to $5.24 and is all-in
JAY 33333: folds
GrapeSoda111: folds
blownboo: folds
DwaalLicht: folds
ezmonee: folds
Dizzy Fuzz said, "ooo"
Dizzy Fuzz: calls $4.64 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2s Tc]
Dizzy Fuzz said, "gl"
*** TURN *** [Jh 2s Tc] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2s Tc 5h] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dizzy Fuzz: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Scrubbo: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Dizzy Fuzz said, "gg"
Scrubbo collected $9.38 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.83 | Rake $0.45
Board [Jh 2s Tc 5h 2d]
Seat 1: Dizzy Fuzz showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 2: Mebo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kluengelkerl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Scrubbo showed [Ad Ah] and won ($9.38) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 5: JAY 33333 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: GrapeSoda111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: blownboo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DwaalLicht (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ezmonee (big blind) folded before Flop


Not much else I could do I think, without folding thinking he has AA, although I guess theres nothing much else he could of had.

KK is a hard hand to fold...

Yes, KK is hard to fold. But, you have to ask yourself why he would come over the top so big. KK is unlikely since there are only two kings left. Would he do that with QQ or AK? It is good to know your opponents. In this type of game, I would suggest that this over the top move is not something tricky but a straightforward statement.

Remember that in poker, you have two ways of being successful, winning money and not losing money. If you call bets because you are curious or because you think you are having the wool pulled over your eyes, then the "not losing money" part of your game will suffer.

I'm not saying I would have layed down KK in this instance but I certainly would have paused and thought about it.

Originally Posted by Cpt. Bloodclot

ppl go all in preflop with plenty of hands

That is true. However, the original raise was 13xBB and the all in reraise was 250xBB. So if this was a 1/2 NL table do you make the call?

Originally Posted by xxdemexx

pennies.. dont evey lay down KK on the pennies- He could have had anything - geeze.. he probably turned white when he saw you had KK - afterall .. KK is better than two ones right???

Indeed so and even then wont KK beat AA 2 times out of 10 or something like that, not that Im going to want to find out but the chances of having KK vs AA isnt exactly going to happen that much...

Well heres for hoping it doesnt.

You could assume he had AA, but you still have to call.

If you try to guess when the raise is AA or when it's something else you are going to cost yourself money over time by folding at the wrong time. Simply let the %'s play out and never lay this down.

Well... at penny tables expecialy, I would'nt fold KK even I'm raised 1.5 millions BB....

He can have anything from any PP to AJs or even worse.

Any way I would'nt fold KK at any stakes unless I have more than 4-5 buyins in front of me as well as my all-in oponent... + that guy really have to be a rock.... or my read must be god dam good to fold KK.

KJ