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  1. #1
    Banned Irexes's Avatar
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    Default WWYD??? Playing Q5s

    Half an hour in to a 600+ 30/3 MTT,

    Assuming you got yourself in the same position I did, what do you do????

    (or if you want to criticise my play then by all means )

    ***** Hand History for Game 3149635512 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:18013112 Level:3 Blinds (15/30) - Monday, December 05, 15:41:23 EDT 2005
    Table Multi-Table(531053) Table #19 (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: corren21 ( $1715 )
    Seat 2: kipleader ( $940 )
    Seat 3: simonsays ( $1125 )
    Seat 4: clevelandohd ( $1055 )
    Seat 5: HopKen ( $2390 )
    Seat 6: nickc20 ( $1715 )
    Seat 7: chadisafa ( $1655 )
    Seat 8: Irexes ( $990 )
    Seat 9: doublefour44 ( $1480 )
    Seat 10: kaylis ( $2480 )
    Trny:18013112 Level:3
    Blinds (15/30)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Irexes [ ]
    kaylis calls [30].
    corren21 folds.
    kipleader calls [30].
    simonsays folds.
    clevelandohd calls [30].
    HopKen folds.
    nickc20 folds.
    chadisafa calls [30].
    Irexes calls [15].
    doublefour44 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
    Irexes bets [60].
    doublefour44 folds.
    kaylis raises [275].
    kipleader folds.
    clevelandohd calls [275].
    chadisafa folds.
    Irexes ???

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    Fold - you've been raised and the raise smooth called. No WAY do I see top-pair bad kicker being any good.
    Last edited by Girevik; 12-06-2005 at 10:17 AM.
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    i would fold, chances are one of them has you beat...best you could hope is probably a split pot...you've got enough chips and the blinds are low enough that you can for a better spot to push your chips in...
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    Toss it. It's obvious somebody has either Q with a <5 kicker. Or the 9.

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    i would fold in the absense of any reads,

    you saw a flop with 4 others with no info on their hands as everyone limps,

    you made a bet and got information that 2 players believe they have some kind of strength.

    also you have about 900TC and the pot is getting too big for you to make any meaningfull bets. i think you should fold unless you really believe you are ahead (i am not sure that you are).

    i would prob see a flop here as you prob have implied odds.

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    Cool, just a health check there, I folded and they had 9T and 9J and the 9T guy got stacked.

    What about this play a little bit later? I'm the big blind, the SB is 68% VPIP over 40 hands the button is 23% VPIP.

    ***** Hand History for Game 3149741785 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:18013112 Level:4 Blinds (25/50) - Monday, December 05, 16:05:53 EDT 2005
    Table Multi-Table(531053) Table #19 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: corren21 ( $1742 )
    Seat 2: kipleader ( $1970 )
    Seat 3: simonsays ( $2245 )
    Seat 5: HopKen ( $2020 )
    Seat 6: nickc20 ( $924 )
    Seat 7: chadisafa ( $3749 )
    Seat 8: Irexes ( $865 )
    Seat 10: kaylis ( $2765 )
    Seat 4: LG316 ( $1365 )
    Seat 9: lar1969 ( $1120 )
    Trny:18013112 Level:4
    Blinds (25/50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Irexes [ ]
    lar1969 folds.
    kaylis folds.
    corren21 folds.
    kipleader folds.
    simonsays folds.
    LG316 folds.
    HopKen folds.
    nickc20 raises [150].
    chadisafa calls [125].
    Irexes is all-In [815]

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    Boy that is tough, I get in so much trouble defending the blinds. So many people DO NOT play position that you cannot right off a button raise as a steal.

    I ended up blowing off about 2500 chips on A high vs a button raiser with 99 on a flop of 99Q.
    Last edited by Beavis68; 12-05-2005 at 12:45 PM.

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    hmm.. risky play (imo).. A 10 is not a really good hand to push on, after the pot had been raised.. then again he was on the button, it could be a steal.. but the button is shortstacked and i doubt he would try to steal when the SB is chip leader.. the chip leader could easily come all in over the top on him and force him out, therefore i doubt he would have raised with shitty cards or attempted to steal at that point.. in this scenario, i only see the shortstacked button playing only top over cards (AK AQ AJ) or a pocket pair (which he would be ready to push with preflop if the chance arose) so at best i figure ur 50/50 to win.. plus u still have 17bbs.. u can easily see like 20 more hands before going under 15bbs.. and im sure in the next 20 hands u can find a better spot to push on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girevik
    Fold - you've been raised and teh raise a smooth called. No WAY do I see top-pair bad kicker being any good.
    yup
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