Did I Overbet This?

**Pok 7's** · 12-05-2005

The 2 players were fairly new at the table I was hoping someone was holding a big ace or 2 pair. My thinking was maybe they'll think I' trying to buy it, but would I have been better off just betting a smaller amount and maybe they'll pay just to see the showdown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($10.05)
MP1 ($1.75)
MP2 ($5.40)
MP3 ($9.85)
CO ($3.85)
Button ($9.85)
Hero ($3.85)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($4.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

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1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.5, BB calls $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($1.60)

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(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: ($1.60)

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: ($1.60)

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.6, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $3.20

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Ah (full house, aces full of sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $3.20.

**traz** · 12-05-2005

bet the turn...The only people you'll money off of on the river are people who have some of the board by the turn anyways, so make them pay a bit to get to the river.

I probably would have bet the flop as well, as continuation bet alot when i raise PF anyways.

In the end, this was probably one of those hands were you were destined to make no money

**PJ of TheGame** · 12-05-2005

Raising strongly preflop and then checking when an Ace flops is two possibilities... a set of Aces or an extremely weak/tight player with KK. Bet out 1/3 to 1/2 the pot on that flop... when your hand is that incredibly strong, offer your opponents very very good odds to call... but get more of their money in the pot. Plus, some stupid opponents would see that small a bet as a great opportunity to raise you to steal the pot... THEN you can play "defence"

Probably one of them had 45s and the other had 22 anyway.

**Girevik** · 12-05-2005

Originally Posted by traz

bet the turn...

Absoloutely - there are two hearts and two spades. Bet and hope someone is on a flush draw (and that they hit it on the river).

**Dizzy_Fuzz** · 12-05-2005

Even if you bet on the flop which you should, you could just bet small perhaps 10c, something that will incline people to call. They will perhaps think you have missed the flop raisng that big then betting small and hopefully itll string them along.

The turn could be a slightly bigger bet hoping that people with a 7 or any type of other draw will call, if you keep it small you might be lucky to get an extra dollar or two but I doubt you'd get much more than that.

As its been said its one of those hands where your destined to make nothing unless you run into someone playing Q7...

**Pok 7's** · 12-05-2005

Originally Posted by Girevik

Absoloutely - there are two hearts and two spades. Bet and hope someone is on a flush draw (and that they hit it on the river).

What would be a suitable bet here I'm guessing half the pot or a little less? I didin't want to scare anyone away and was hoping maybe someone would bluff at it thinking I had just a smaller pocket pair and was scared of the Ace. I was hoping someone hit their draw also so I was trying to give them every chance to hit it. But I can totally see that betting the turn or flop to get a little more $ into the pot but was worrid about scaring anyone. I was hoping there was an AK, or AQ, that called my raise, and would think I was stealing on the river and the call with TPTK or 2 pair.

**traz** · 12-05-2005

the thing with a flop like that is, you're not getting any action unless he has a piece of it, and if he has a piece of it, he'll call your bet anyways. So the only people you are scaring away are people that won't pay you anyways. Inflate the pot, you'll either make it nice and big, or you'll take it down small, which you would've done anyways.

**gder03** · 12-05-2005

ya maybe bet .10 and they call. so no big deal. on turn id make weakass bet prolly. it was just a hand where u had almost nuts, and they had nothing.

**Eclipse86** · 12-06-2005

personally, i think a good play here would have just been to check the river as well...
i am definately checking this turn as well, cuz there are 2 flush draws present, if one of them holds 2 spades or 2 hearts and makes the flush on the river.. then u can check-raise them on the river, and make even more money imo (as a pose to betting small on the turn, then betting the potsize on the river, only to have the guy who hit the flush draw to flat out call ur river bet - paired board, he probably wont raise u on the river even if he hits a flush).. it would also come off looking as a bluff on your part as well (u checked all streets then all of a sudden check-raise river, when ur opponent makes a flush)..
another reason why i would check this river:
if u bet potsize on river, and both or one of those guys left to act after u holds a pocket pair then its an easy fold for them, as there are 3 overcards on the board. BUT if u check this river most likely if one of those guys left to act holds pocket pair or whatever, then they will try to take a stab at the pot if its checked to him from the flop down to the river.. ur also giving your opponents a chance to bluff at the pot on the river (the guy in late position would probably say to himself, these guys checked this down to the river from the flop.. they couldn't possibly have the ace! im gonna try to bluff and steal this pot! ***bet***)

**PJ of TheGame** · 12-06-2005

A 1/3 pot bet will get some calls. In addition, people will still take stabs at the pot if they think you're weak, and they have to put more money in to do so.

The check when you hit trips is so obvious :/

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