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  1. #1
    Check Raiser
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    Default Good Call or Bad Call here ?

    Hand #142047390 at table: Texas Holdem
    Started: Mon Nov 28 19:14:55 200
    surferiop is at seat 1 with 1730.00 ME
    portabales is at seat 2 with 2637.00
    John P is at seat 3 with 3312.00
    JoshKlein is at seat 5 with 3720.00
    DryGrape is at seat 6 with 900.00
    zygzay is at seat 7 with 6900.00
    tita45 is at seat 8 with 5610.00
    Fuma is at seat 9 with 2825.00
    pazoo is at seat 10 with 4430.00

    zygzay posts the large blind 100.00
    DryGrape posts the small blind 50.00

    DryGrape: --, --
    zygzay: --, --
    tita45: --, --
    Fuma: --, --
    pazoo: --, --
    surferiop: As, Kh
    portabales: --, --
    John P: --, --
    JoshKlein: --, --

    Pre-flop:

    tita45: Fold
    Fuma: Fold
    pazoo: Call 100.00
    surferiop: Raise 300.00
    portabales: Fold
    John P: Fold
    JoshKlein: Fold
    DryGrape: Fold
    zygzay: Fold
    pazoo: All in
    surferiop: All in

    Showdown:

    surferiop shows: As, Kh (high card, Ace)
    pazoo shows: Ad, Ah (a pair of Aces)

    Flop (Board: 5c, 10d, 6h):


    Turn (Board: 5c, 10d, 6h, 8d):


    River (Board: 5c, 10d, 6h, 8d, 10h):

    pazoo shows: Ad, Ah (two pair, Aces and Tens)

    Mainpot:
    pazoo wins the pot of 3610 with two pair, Aces and Tens

  2. #2
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    You are almost never in bad shape in an all-in situation with AK. Need more details about where you are in the tourney which i believe is what you were playing. Post more info about the situation.

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    yea i probably call there too... dont know much about the whole situation though

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    I call it in an instant.

  5. #5
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    200~ entered 20 pay about 95 left

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    I CALL!

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    call

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    No folding equity. I fold. :good:

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    Unless you are up against AA or KK, the worst you are with AKo is a 43% vs QQ.
    If you knew he was a very tight player I would say fold,
    Otherwise, call.
    A good education is expensive but ignorance costs more.

  10. #10
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    Well, let's look at the pot odds first:

    1430 to call 1980 or about 1.4:1. So we need to be about 42% to win. So that makes this a break even or slightly better call against any pair 22-QQ (in fact we're 43% against the entire range of pairs 22-AA). And of course he could be making this move with a significantly weaker hand such as AQ or AJ (which then puts us in a coin flip at 50/50 when you figure these into the range).

    So just from a pot odds standpoint, you're likely just getting the odds to call.

    But, here's the rub: If this is a tourney, do you want to put your entire tournament life on the line on a coinflip?

    If I had a higher M (yours is about 12 here), I'd probably fold. But you're starting to get low, and the money is nowhere in sight. I say you take the gamble and make the call. Of course, if I feel like I can easily outplay this table right now, then I fold and find a better spot. But it really depends.

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